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  •  This is what you tell (12+ / 0-)

    anyone that believes running private sales through a NICS check equates to registration:

    Buyer and seller takes gun to licensed dealer. If there is a delay, dealer takes possession of firearm until it clears, which can take up to three days but often resolves far quicker.

    Once all that's done, the transaction goes into the FFL's bound book like any other transaction.

    Dealer can charge you a farthing or two for the service.

    How is this any different from buying a gun from a dealer? It's not.  

    "Everything I do is blown out of proportion. It really hurts my feelings." - Paris Hilton

    by kestrel9000 on Tue Jan 22, 2013 at 07:25:03 AM PST

    •  The Confiscation fear is that the data from the (5+ / 0-)

      FFL bound books will be put into a national computer database at some time in the future.  What may be happening now is that honest citizens highly concerned about future confiscation are going out of their way to make their gun purchases using the private sale exemption.

      Advocates of gun control should not underestimate how deep this fear of future confiscation is in some parts of the population, especially in parts of the country with a deep gun culture.

      There may be an effort to have required background checks on all sales, but without the cleared transfers from being recorded by FFLs or government for private sales - with instances of checks that fail being reported to law enforcement.

      The most important way to protect the environment is not to have more than one child.

      by nextstep on Tue Jan 22, 2013 at 09:15:27 AM PST

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    •  collection and integration of that data is certain (1+ / 0-)
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      which as a gun owner, doesn't bother me, but neither shall I pretend that that database won't be subject to all the woes a giant gubmint database also involves, the worst and obvious example being the TSA no fly list.

      Add the mental health 'screenings' and the nebulous parameters for that and how that can be abused...surely it will prove to be a clustefk or a useless distraction.

      And even provisions this data be purged and uncollected, heh, not gonna happen imo, but maybe.....
        The privatization of data is rolling rolling rolling...also. such as.

      But the slow ponderous way gubbmint works, there will be no squad coming to my door looking for #6. And anyway...
        He moved out...oh, a few years ago...

      For cons to freak about this data and not the NSA data just shows how out of touch they can be. All those Amendments are important, not just the one Yertle the Turtle is fearmongering and fundraising with. It's hateful.

      This machine kills Fascists.

      by KenBee on Tue Jan 22, 2013 at 02:03:42 PM PST

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      •  Yeah. That. What you said. (1+ / 0-)
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        For cons to freak about this data and not the NSA data just shows how out of touch they can be. All those Amendments are important, not just the one Yertle the Turtle is fearmongering and fundraising with. It's hateful.
        I support the entire Bill of Rights, not just the parts I like.

        "Everything I do is blown out of proportion. It really hurts my feelings." - Paris Hilton

        by kestrel9000 on Tue Jan 22, 2013 at 02:32:15 PM PST

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      •  A couple of ways around that. (0+ / 0-)

        The objective is to open a path for legitimate law enforcement inquiry into the exchange of a crime gun from manufacturer to its final legitimate holder, right?

        So why not simply require that bound books (or a cheaper, more reliable alternative I'll diary about soon) be kept and preserved but protected under the Fourth Amendment.  This same system with some modification could be extended to private sellers without even involving an FFL.

        This way you address real law enforcement concerns while defending the privacy of legitimate gun owners and standing up a constitutional and practical firewall against confiscation.

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