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    Long before corporations and the like began to shape the debate, it was dominated by conservative Christians arguing that God gave man dominion over all the earth and everything on it, to develop and exploit for the benefit of man. The stewardship movement, as a retreat from and counter to that position, is quite recent.

    The "ME" thing has has a ton of forms. Anything that might lead to even the slightest increase in cost of living at a given standard, or even the slightest decrease in creature comforts, was evil. Thus the war against doing away with Freon was largely based on the fact that replacement technology was not as efficient and would lead to increased discomfort & would cost mose in terms of energy costs.

    That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

    by enhydra lutris on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 12:23:19 PM PST

    •  Not sure about that (0+ / 0-)

      There has always been a Calvinist streak in America, but the dominionist/reconstructionist movement is more recent and probably inaccurate to suggest that is the predominant worldview among conservative Christians. It is true that dominionist/reconstructionist ideas are quite popular among the religious right power brokers.

      The point is there is a fair amount of heterogeneity among evangelical Christians and probably always has been. The idea of stewardship is growing in popularity, particularly among younger generations. Thus, there is a critical mass to build public support for action on climate change.

      As for the "me" thing, we are all prone to it. Part of getting people to invest in energy efficiency is being able to show them how long it will take to recoup their investment and see real cost savings.

      Be radical in your compassion.

      by DWG on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 02:01:26 PM PST

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      •  I am sure about that, it was big news (1+ / 0-)
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        when a handfull of larger churches switched to protectionist views - within the last 20 years.

        The argument from Genesis is unrelated to dominionism/reconstructionism. --
        Gen 1:26

        And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
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        Gen 1:28
        Then God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”

        That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

        by enhydra lutris on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 04:26:31 PM PST

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        •  Genesis 1:28 is where the moral fight (2+ / 0-)
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          will center in Christianity.  If we want to survive we will have to convince the crazy evangelicals that ruling over it means that we must be it's stewards and not destroyers.

          •  Define "Dominion" (2+ / 0-)
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            If any religious person considers God to be a caring shepherd, then Dominion means caring stewardship.  (Consider "Domini" as Latin for God, as in Anno Domini).

            Reflexively, if someone thinks that "Dominion" means to uncaringly use up and destroy anything you can control, then that person apparently doesn't think much of their God.

            •  Yes -- when I think of the word "dominion," (1+ / 0-)
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              the connotations that come to mind are of order and structure, not chaos and destruction. A dominion in the sense of a country ruled by a monarch, for example.

              Kings and queens that actively destroy the countries that they rule usually don't last very long, and suffer pretty nasty ends.

              "We are stardust, we are golden, and we've got to get ourselves back to the garden." (Joni Mitchell) Join the Forward on Climate Rally on February 17!

              by Eowyn9 on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 06:18:20 PM PST

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          •  Fossil fuels are not "on" the Earth (0+ / 0-)

            Where does it say in the Bible that it's okay to take stuff out of the ground, burn it, and put it into the air?

            I'm not a Christian and wouldn't make arguments about climate change based solely on the Bible, but if that's your source for truth, it seems to me you need to be able to answer this question.

            Since plague became in this way some men's duty, it revealed itself as what it really was; that is the concern of all. --Albert Camus

            by Neighbor2 on Fri Feb 01, 2013 at 07:58:54 PM PST

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