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  •  they basically sat silent over the summer (1+ / 0-)
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    and let their candidate be defined by the opposition.

    they created their own reality, throwing out the data that didn't reflect their bubble mentality.

    we should not make the same mistake.

    -You want to change the system, run for office.

    by Deep Texan on Tue Jan 22, 2013 at 07:22:54 AM PST

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    •  Willingness and desire to grab complete credit... (1+ / 0-)
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      .....for everytbing good was their hallmark as was blaming everyone else for what was bad and you will see a lot of this in this diary.
      Occupy was the only ones demonstrating at the Demcratic comvention, thats why you saw  no Occupy people inside the convention.
      For them to claim later that  they had a big influence on th Democratic Party, which they scorned and insulted at every step is just more fatuous grandstanding. You'll see that in this diary too.
      Democratic politicians like Gavin Newsom, Jean Quan and Sam Adams originally stood with Occupy and see what happened to them. They don't stand with them any more, for sure. For Occupy to say they were influential in getting Democrats elected is just incredibly stupid.
      Speking as a Democrat I can say they were no help to us at all, anywhere.  They were an embarrassment to us, we got blamed for them while they badmouthed us eternally. Still do, you can see it right here.
      This diary will be an orgy for them to tell themselves how great they were/are but thats the way things sound in an echo chamber. OUtside of kos and other places on the net, theyre no place at all.

      Happy just to be alive

      by exlrrp on Tue Jan 22, 2013 at 08:04:34 AM PST

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    •  It's both/and, not either/or (3+ / 0-)
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      chloris creator, ask, PhilJD

      Did the GOP blow the 2012 election in almost every way possible?  Of course they did.  From their clown car cavalcade of candidates to Thurston Howell III as their nominee w/ Eddie Munster as his running mate to the disastrous RNC, they shot themselves in both feet and in both arms, too.

      OTOH, OWS pushing class issues to the front surely helped.  In fact, while we'll never know who took the infamous "47%" video of Romney, that videotaping was very much within the spirit of Occupy.   Class issues are always a winner for Dems, and OWS was the only outside force vigorously pushing class issues into the debate.

      A national election has so many moving parts that one can never analyze or appreciate all of them.  In this election, however, both GOP incompetence and Occupy were clearly 2 of the moving parts.  

      Some men see things as they are and ask why. I dream of things that never were and ask why not?

      by RFK Lives on Tue Jan 22, 2013 at 08:10:56 AM PST

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      •  disagree (0+ / 0-)

        this election was lost over the summer.  it's as simple as that.

        they defined Mitt early on in the swing states before the 47% tape even hit the air .

        -You want to change the system, run for office.

        by Deep Texan on Tue Jan 22, 2013 at 08:58:12 AM PST

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