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    I will at least credit Bill Clinton for not pushing the classic form of this myth (that the whole 1994 blowout was about the AWB) - as it said in the politico piece:

    And Clinton said that passing the 1994 federal assault weapons ban “devastated” more than a dozen Democratic lawmakers in the 1994 midterms — and cost then-Speaker of the House Tom Foley (D-Wash.) his job and his seat in Congress.
    Dems lost over 50 seats in 1994, so to say 12 or 13 of them could possibly have been won if not for the AWB, well that's at least a little more plausible.

    The part that makes it all hard to accept for me is that gun control was much more popular in the early 90s.  It's as likely to me that failure to do the AWB would have hurt Democrats among those who wanted the AWB too.

    Anyway, obviously 1994 was about a lot of things, and if you want to believe Dems could have held on to the majority by the skin of their teeth without the AWB, fine, but it's still disingenuous to say the AWB cost Democrats congress in 1994.  You'd need an explanation for the other 40 seats lost that weren't in pro-gun places.

    •  If I say this, maybe the local folks who believe (3+ / 0-)

      it won't have to be bothered. The 2013 version is that there have been 4 million recent gun background checks, all 4 million were first time gun purchasers, all bought becoming even more ardent RKBA supporters (single issue voters, really), and that all are/were Dems. "Were", of course, if the left dares lift a finger on the issue. And those 4 million lost Dem votes are just the tip of the iceberg because, like, a very large percentage of gun owners are rural current Dems who are also monolithically single issue voters. Projected net loss could easily be upwards of 20,000,000 votes, especially since (presumablY) nothing else that Pres. Obama will do now will, sadly, even possibly energize anyone on the left, let alone any new voters.

      Basically, we're doomed. So sorry!

      There can be no protection locally if we're content to ignore the fact that there are no controls globally.

      by oldpotsmuggler on Tue Jan 22, 2013 at 10:07:55 AM PST

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      •  Hey there :) (2+ / 0-)
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        I have been watching all of my hard work at bringing my lot of former dems turned conservs back from the dark side. To get them to trust once again took years, only to watch them flee for the shade when this came up is to say the least frustrating.

        Most of them will agree the old assault weapons ban did not end the world. The problem has not been Obamas proposal but those who would go farther than that. Contrary to popular belief rednecks can read and have computers too.

        This is just one little area but one that delivered alot of votes for our newly minted Washington State governer. Such areas probably win him the election.

        It is the heart that makes a man rich. He is rich according to what he is not what he has -Henry Ward Beecher

        by PSWaterspirit on Tue Jan 22, 2013 at 11:41:32 AM PST

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        •  The premise, then is that the state that just (0+ / 0-)

          legalized pot likes to light one up so that they can all go out and light up the night sky with tracer rounds?

          That one seems like a bit of a tough sell to me.

          There can be no protection locally if we're content to ignore the fact that there are no controls globally.

          by oldpotsmuggler on Tue Jan 22, 2013 at 05:23:02 PM PST

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    •  according to the mother jones article (0+ / 0-)

      the dem losses were 54 seats in congress

      GOP took control of the house for the first time in 40 years

      clinton is personally of the opinion that the AWB is directly responsible for losing 20 of those seats.

      Please don't dominate the rap, Jack, if you got nothin' new to say - Grateful Dead

      by Cedwyn on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 09:50:20 PM PST

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