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  •  interesting nuclear option dynamic (1+ / 0-)
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    Sychotic1

    If Reid can't get agreement with Yertle, we may get stronger rules like the talking filibuster, because the nuclear option would only need 51 votes, which we seem to have.

    So Yertle doesn't really have much leverage other than the Senators' preference to avoid the nuclear option if possible.

    •  Nuclear option can come at any time (1+ / 0-)
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      elginblt

      That was the point of it before.  If McConnell doesn't keep his side of whatever bargain they strike, there can be a ruling by the chair that is upheld by a 51-vote majority.

      Requiring 41 votes to block rather than 60 to proceed, coupled with no filibuster on a motion to proceed, and fewer appointments subject to confirmation would actually go a long way.

      The scientific uncertainty doesn't mean that climate change isn't actually happening.

      by Mimikatz on Tue Jan 22, 2013 at 09:58:02 AM PST

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      •  understood. It's about whip counts (1+ / 0-)
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        elginblt

        as Mokurai pointed out above.

        Although the rules can be changed at any time, getting 51 votes to do so is unlikely except on the session open.

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