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  •  I thought that, per rules (1+ / 0-)
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    today was the only day on which this was possible. Is that not so?

    "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

    by kovie on Tue Jan 22, 2013 at 09:34:14 AM PST

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    •  it's still January 3 (1+ / 0-)
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      The Senate has the power to extend time indefinitely.

    •  Myth (2+ / 0-)
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      I don't have access to it not, but there was an article authored by a former Senate parliamentarian, disputing that the Senate could only change rules on the first day.

      Intuitively, this makes sense.  The Senate should be free to change rules whenever they want.

      Still, the conventional wisdom is to the contrary, and Reid's actions suggest he accepts that the rule changes must occur on the first official day, though that can be extended  indefinitely.

      •  It's been discussed before. (1+ / 0-)
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        They can change the rules at any time during a session, but long-established convention limits such action to the first day to discourage shenanigans. Would the GOP as majority switch rules in the middle of a session? They've threatened to do so before, but have never actually gone through with it.


        •  That's the so-called "nuclear option" (0+ / 0-)

          which to my understanding is NOT what Dems are proposing here. The NO would have required violating the rules to change the rules, at least according to some interpretations, whereas this takes advantage of the fact that on the first day of each new senate's session there are no rules except the ones the constitution imposes, allowing a simple majority to change the rules from those of the previous senate. Repubs claim that this is unconstitutional, which is rich given that they had no constitutional issue with Frist's far more dubious NO. But then "rules" and Repubs should never be in the same sentence unless it includes the word "violate" or words "don't make me laugh".

          "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

          by kovie on Tue Jan 22, 2013 at 03:30:55 PM PST

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