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  •  It was extraordinary. (6+ / 0-)

    Mentioning Stonewall in the Address is an order of magnitude greater than an expression of support for equal marriage.  

    I've been very skeptical about supposed presidential turning points, but with the flat refusal to negotiate the debt ceiling and this broad and obviously intentional effort to raise expectations on several fronts, the turning point is likely real.  

    The President is probably the most skilled politician of his generation.  Determined to use all the tools available, and bold in the face of obstruction, we may get the transformation we've wanted.

    Thanks for this informative diary.

    •  depends on how you define generation (4+ / 0-)
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      in the past 30 years I would consider Bill Clinton the most skillful politician, which is why it was infuriating that he would not spend political capital on clearly winnable fights

      of course, Clinton is of my generation and we are both more than a decade and a half older than Obama.

      "We didn't set out to save the world; we set out to wonder how other people are doing and to reflect on how our actions affect other people's hearts." - Pema Chodron

      by teacherken on Tue Jan 22, 2013 at 12:39:52 PM PST

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      •  Although you might call them both Baby Boomers (3+ / 0-)
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        I see--and feel--a clear difference between early Boomers like the Clintons, and late Boomers, like Obama (and me).  Early Boomers experienced a Cold War that was markedly less stable than the one experienced by late boomers growing up.  They also lived in an America that was still indisputably improving.  By the time late Boomers reached adulthood, economic stagnation and lowering expectations for the middle class were facts of life.  I also think it's fair to say that early Boomers had the good fortune to grow up in a society that was improving socially, however painful the process.  We late Boomers got the religious right and the full force of social and economic reaction.

        That difference, geo-strategic instability tempered by the promise of economic and social improvement vs. relative geo-strategic stability accompanied by plunging expectations and the rightist retrenchment, amount to a full generational difference despite the presence of both generations in one demographic bulge.

        How's that?

      •  Clinton is an amazing political (3+ / 0-)
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        operator, but we shouldn't overlook the fact that a young, relatively inexperienced, African-American, with a funny name got himself elected to the Presidency and then got re-elected by an economically depressed nation with very high rates of unemployment.

        He was also able to pass vital, but unpopular, legislation to alleviate ,the worst of the Great Recession and to begin transforming our medical system. All of this was done with the vehement opposition of the Republicans and the rather tepid support of many Democrats.

        Here's my take on it - the revolution will not be blogged, it has to be slogged. - Deoliver47

        by OIL GUY on Tue Jan 22, 2013 at 01:16:23 PM PST

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