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  •  Trespassers (18+ / 0-)
    The lesson was this: possessing a weapon allowed one to intimidate, trample another’s property rights and entitled one to indignation and embitterment at the suggestion that perhaps this behavior was wrong.
    Reads as prose-like as the rest of the diary, but it's not the gun.  
    The place I farm was sold by auction nearly 2 years ago.  
    The new owners refreshed the No Trespassing signs.

    Trespassing is defined as "other than what I'm doing" by all I challenge.

    Here's a list of what I was told this past summer and fall:
    1. I'm just running my dog.
    2. I'm just horseback riding.
    3. I'm looking for mushrooms.
    4. I'm here as the Town river access is full.  I drove out through the fields to launch my kayak.  The bank's too high here, what's down that dirt road?
    5. I'm here with my family to picnic.
    6. We're just taking a hike.
    7. Dude, it's just a few ATVs.
    8. I'm shooting, not HUNTING.
    9. I'm certain the sign said nothing about picking tomatoes.
    10. I'm just cutting firewood.
    11. I knew the former owner.  
    12. I'm friends with the new owner.
    13. Who the fuck are you to question me?
    14. I'm just looking for some antique barnboard.
    15. I'm just looking for a place to rent, and thought I'd look around inside.
    16. I'm not hunting.
    17. I'm not fishing.
    18. I'm not trapping.
    19. Can't you read?  NO HUNTING so why do you have a gun?
    My favorite:
    20. I know the guy who farms this, and he said it's ok.  Do you know where he keeps the keys to the tractor so I can load this compost mix?

    •  Amen. And if this list does not ring true to you (8+ / 0-)

      then you have never owned a (posted) farm.

      Alpacas spit if you piss them off. So don't do that.

      by alpaca farmer on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 05:53:46 PM PST

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      •  or any other posted land n/t (2+ / 0-)
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        •  Yes I can agree (3+ / 0-)
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          I erected a 5 foot mesh and barbed wire fence around my farm. Best investment I ever made. My list isn't as long as yours but I do remember one slick trick. A group were hunting on the farm before fencing. When I approached them, one of them handed me a new role of rope and said they had found it for me.

          •  Were the threating you? (2+ / 0-)
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            Holy cow!   What happened next? What did you say?

             And yes, I had my neighbors teenage brat riding his snowmobile up my hill, right in front of me without permission.  He had the nerve to turn around and look at me and my hulking friend as he zipped by us (he was about 100 yards away, too far to tackle).

            When I complained to his mother, she said he wasn't hurting anything (!) I explained my 7 acres is for wildlife and  flatly told her to stay off my land.

             I also said she shouldn't mind me bringing my dogs over to crap on her lawn, cause what harm are they doing?

            The entilement of some people amazes me.  

            "I have to go... There are two gay men knocking on my door asking me if I need any abortions or marijuana. Diary, this may be my last entry" Facebook hysteria after 2012 election

            by pitbullgirl65 on Tue Jan 29, 2013 at 06:37:47 AM PST

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    •  Never owned a farm but this (7+ / 0-)
      The lesson was this: possessing a weapon allowed one to intimidate, trample another’s property rights and entitled one to indignation and embitterment at the suggestion that perhaps this behavior was wrong.
      Its true even without a farm. That's why they want to carry guns into schools, churches, malls, and town halls.

      Intimidation. When thwarted they get all offended that you SPOKE OUT AT ALL. Like you had a right to do that. Geez, dude, who had the gun?

      Just saying.

      •  And they all think that in an actual firefight, (3+ / 0-)

        they'll be as cool as Bruce Willis, as untouchable as Neo and as admired as John Wayne.

        Whereas the real situation will problably be a bunch of idiots pointing in the general direction of someone they think is shooting at them while shrieking, "Oh, shit! Oh, shit!"

        I'm sure these people thought they were "way cool" when they decided to pick up a gun:

        Freedom has two enemies: Those who want to control everyone around them...and those who feel no need to control themselves.

        by Sirenus on Tue Jan 29, 2013 at 10:45:38 AM PST

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    •  My family had 10 acres (6+ / 0-)

      when I was growing up. Not a farm, but we did have a horse. Every fall, hunters would hike up from a nearby highway and fire away at the deer in the back several acres of our lot. After our horse nearly became a casualty, Dad kept putting up No Trespassing and No Hunting signs, but we'd always find them torn down and lying on the ground, with a bunch of bullet holes shot through them for good measure. Dad finally went to confront a bunch of them one day and almost ended up with a bullet himself for his efforts. He had his own shotgun, but they acted like they were the property owners and he was the interloper, belligerently asserting that they'd been hunting there for years and they were damn sure going to keep hunting there.

    •  Too true (1+ / 0-)
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      Folks have no problem trampling all over one's property or one's rights.

      "We are kept keen on the grindstones of pain & necessity"--H.G. Wells

      by Reasonable Doubt on Tue Jan 29, 2013 at 06:51:00 AM PST

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    •  Sounds like what pro-gun people say (3+ / 0-)

      Whenever the topic of guns and gun regulations comes up, we hear the same sort of lame fake excuses and bs from gun enthusiasts

      1) I need a gun to protect myself from bobcats and polecats
      2) Owning a gun is my heritage
      3) There used to be a crack house on the corner
      4) I read the 2nd amendment
      5) It takes forever for the cops to get here
      6) It's a clip, not a magazine
      7) When I was ten, my uncle taught me how to lead a duck in flight
      8) We should teach our children responsibility
      9) We should teach our children shooting sports
      10) You don't know anything about me
      11) It's OK, I have advance training
      12) It's OK, I am a responsible gun owner

      I share your exasperation.

      "The fool doth think he is wise: the wise man knows himself to be a fool" - W. Shakespeare

      by Hugh Jim Bissell on Tue Jan 29, 2013 at 07:02:03 AM PST

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    •  I have one asshole who actually (1+ / 0-)
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      had the gaul to build a deer stand on my property.  I had a preacher brag to me about how he would go hunting on my family's property without permission - he thought it was really cool of him.  I have to be careful walking my own property because I can't know when and if someone has decided to go on and hunt.  The only person they seem to fear is the game warden who only comes around a couple times during hunting season - probably just to write the tickets who pay his wages and make him relevant for a short period of time during the year.  AND these people feel that they are entitled to shoot and hunt on our land - even though there is real potential for them shooting any number of the people who live around the farm perimeter.  In short, it is bullshit.

      People really don't seem to understand that if they can't play with their guns and follow some pretty basic rules, eventually other people are going to push back.  That's just going to happen.

      •  Sadly, my family knows this only too well... (5+ / 0-)
        there is real potential for them shooting any number of the people who live around the farm perimeter.

        It was a crisp November day two years ago. Fifteen minutes earlier, Karen had been on the phone with a neighbor discussing gunshots, presumably from deer hunters nearby. Leaving her twin daughters, Laura and Lindsey, 1, safely in the house, she grabbed a bluejacket and white mittens and walked fewer than 50 yards toward the back of her property. Sixty yards away, Rogerson, a hunter with at least 25 seasons' experience, fired his Remington, 30-06 at what he later said was a buck. Then he said he saw two "flags," the white underside of a deer's tail raised in flight, and fired again. Hurrying over to mark his "kill," he found Karen Wood lying on the ground.
        I'd rather not say much more, that wound has never healed nor the torture our family went through.

        “One instance was [when] I think the trial verdict was announced,” he said. “My friend or his wife were at a junior high school soccer match. Obviously the news was big news in Bangor. [The verdict] was announced over the loudspeaker, and the crowd cheered.”
        The crowd cheered when the killer was found innocent.

        -7.62; -5.95 The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.~Tesla

        by gerrilea on Tue Jan 29, 2013 at 03:14:54 PM PST

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        •  This is truly horrible (3+ / 0-)
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          I'm sorry to hear this gerrilea. This is too sad.  People bearing guns shoulder a huge responsibility that seems all too frequently not to be taken seriously.

          "We are kept keen on the grindstones of pain & necessity"--H.G. Wells

          by Reasonable Doubt on Tue Jan 29, 2013 at 03:51:37 PM PST

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          •  That's my thing. (2+ / 0-)
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            When I was growing up my military school educated father decided that there would be no guns in our house.  He took the responsibility seriously in that he decided that our house would not be one saddled with that burden.  He did not believe that others were obligated to follow his judgment beyond the responsibility part of the equation - you want to have a firearm, then you do your part to make sure it serves you as it should and doesn't hurt other people.  

            But we find ourselves with a lot of people who want all of the rights and none of the responsibility - and many think that their firearms give them the right to trample the rights of others.  That's not OK.

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