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  •  Having watched those videos, why? (9+ / 0-)

    Why do you think they're right? They have a vested interest in her not running. They don't want the fishing bowl getting crowded.

    Too many Southern Democrats have given up.  Shaking things up a little isn't a bad way of pursuing an upset. What do we have to lose?  Democrats blew the last two senate elections in Kentucky by settling with these establishment types.

    Governments care only as much as their citizens force them to care. Nothing changes unless we change -- George Monbiot.

    by Nulwee on Fri Jan 25, 2013 at 01:35:04 PM PST

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    •  They are right because I live in Kentucky, and (4+ / 0-)

      Democrats here are really moderate Republicans.   Real Dems are few and far between.  Yes, I wish we had more of them.

      The Tea Party is vigorously going to challenge McConnell, but in KY the Tea Party candidate is the more likely winner.

      Ashley Judd will be destroyed in a Kentucky run for Senate.  They will pull every personal and evil trick to discredit her.

      I will work hard for her election if she runs, and I think she is a good Democratic candidate, very strong if she chooses to run - but in Kentucky, yes, she has to weigh if she wants her reputation destroyed in the process.

      I do think she has a chance of winning, but it's slim.  Her coal stance is against ever rural county east of I-75

      I grew up in Chicago.  I know tough politics.  Kentucky is evil.

      "Privatize to Profitize" explains every single Republican economic, social and governing philosophy. Take every taxpayer dollar from defense, education, health care, public lands, retirement - privatize it, and profit from it.

      by mumtaznepal on Fri Jan 25, 2013 at 01:45:11 PM PST

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      •  Are you doubting Judd is tough? (4+ / 0-)

        Look at the videos again and I suggest doing additional reach on You Tube.  I think Ashley Judd very well knows the Tea Party so even some of us might be underestimating her potential.

        Besides, recent polls put Ashley Judd down by just a slim margin:

        http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

        One challenger he might not have expected is Judd, who is reported to be seriously considering a Democratic bid. PPP found that Judd would be the top choice of Democratic primary voters, and would trail McConnell by just four points in a hypothetical matchup, 43 percent to his 47 percent.
        Another thing, Judd has long roots in Kentucky.  She is a fighter and she can be able to fight back.  I think because she's normally looked as an actress, she just has to get out there on the campaign trail.  I'm thinking people will start liking her.

        She's bright.

        •  No. I am not doubting Judd is tough. I am simply (2+ / 0-)
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          saying it's a tough, evil campaign.  She has to decide if, first, she want's to uproot her family and move back to Kentucky, and secondly, if she wants to go through that as her first race.

          I hope she runs.  She'd get every woman's vote in the state.  That would be her power.

          "Privatize to Profitize" explains every single Republican economic, social and governing philosophy. Take every taxpayer dollar from defense, education, health care, public lands, retirement - privatize it, and profit from it.

          by mumtaznepal on Fri Jan 25, 2013 at 01:56:21 PM PST

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          •  Yeah but the Tea Party is losing credibility (4+ / 0-)

            Their base isn't as active as it was in 2009-2010.  Sure, the Tea Party is still active in Kentucky but Judd has the guts to fire back.  I don't think she'll be a wimp and avoid a debate.  Maybe this is what Kentucky needs so it can adapt to the real world.

            Then of course, West Virginia is next.

            •  There are multiple infighting local Tea Party (2+ / 0-)
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              groups around here, and in northern Kentucky.  If they can't mount a decent candidate against McConnell (I imagine there would be 3-4 in the primary?) it would be a great sign of their disarray.

              I would quit my day job to campaign for Judd.

              "Privatize to Profitize" explains every single Republican economic, social and governing philosophy. Take every taxpayer dollar from defense, education, health care, public lands, retirement - privatize it, and profit from it.

              by mumtaznepal on Fri Jan 25, 2013 at 02:06:43 PM PST

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      •  What's wrong with saying the folks (4+ / 0-)

        who run the mines... whose blood, sweat & tears are the backbone of the mining industry... deserve more than coming home in a coffin at the end of the work day because the CEO cuts the miners short $0.59 for a filter or a couple dollars for proper ventilation and warning systems.

        All so he can buy his 14th beachside mansion.

        And the kids up there deserve clean water. And good schools. And their parents are NOT stupid when it comes down to those points.

        Just depends on how you fight back against King Coal and the bigots like Mongiardo. He doesn't speak for the mountains. So, it matters what kind of fire you use.


        One may live without bread, but not without roses.
        ~Jean Richepin
        Bread & Roses

        by bronte17 on Fri Jan 25, 2013 at 02:31:34 PM PST

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        •  I can't, unfortunately, think of any industry (2+ / 0-)
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          whatsoever that could take the place of mining in those hills.  I wish I could.

          Put a manufacturing plant in a town, draw from a three-county area for employees?  There's no railroads, and few roads. Your suppliers can't get to you easily, higher costs for you. Cheaper to do that out on the bluegrass plateau than in the hills.

          Can't farm, can't grow cattle, can't log, and tobacco base is gone.  There's nothing but having a meth lab.

          "Privatize to Profitize" explains every single Republican economic, social and governing philosophy. Take every taxpayer dollar from defense, education, health care, public lands, retirement - privatize it, and profit from it.

          by mumtaznepal on Fri Jan 25, 2013 at 03:39:52 PM PST

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          •  Farming most certainly is done in the mountains (1+ / 0-)
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            My uncle-in-law was a millionaire self-made man who farmed, raised cattle, hay, corn, crops. Built his own home. Lovely wife and children who grew up like him... self-sufficient.

            Lots of farming in the mountains. Lots of cattle. No logging? Are you kidding?

            Tobacco is still around in places. Farmers have diversified though. Nothing wrong with time marching on and progress.

            And, your standard "manufacturing plant" with big concrete parking lot and rin-tin pop-ups around it aren't necessarily the only economic engine in the room.


            One may live without bread, but not without roses.
            ~Jean Richepin
            Bread & Roses

            by bronte17 on Fri Jan 25, 2013 at 04:29:04 PM PST

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    •  As if any of them are going to win (2+ / 0-)
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      McConnell's seat.  When was the last time Kentucky Dems elected someone to the Senate?

      Democratic Leaders must be very clear they stand with the working class of our country. Democrats must hold the line in demanding that deficit reduction is done fairly -- not on the backs of the elderly, the sick, children and the poor.

      by Betty Pinson on Fri Jan 25, 2013 at 01:50:08 PM PST

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    •  I am a Southern Democrat... (5+ / 0-)
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      in the state that let Democrats down the most this election season.  And I will never give up.  And I firmly believe if the resources and effort is put into most southern states, we can turn the South blue in time.

      We have to grab ahold of any potential winner in every red state and support them with all we've got.  Every new young voter we turn into a Democrat will probably be a Democrat for life.

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