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  •  I was a Biden delegate in the Iowa caucuses. (3+ / 0-)
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    musiccitymollie, Brian A, JBL55

    To support him again, I would need to hear from him on how we went from "I flat guarantee" no changes to Social Security, to chained CPI etc.  I would not care to vote for another four years of the austerity economics and Wall Street coddling that are part of our current policy. He would have to seriously open up some distance between his views and this administration before I would even consider it.

    My decision not to support Clinton was always about policy.  I would love to vote for a woman for President, and I recognize her substantial intellectual gifts and the good job she has done at State.  But I am turned off by her hawkishness on Iran (e.g. Kyl-Lieberman amendment), and  the fear that her husband's Rubinite economic policies, which we are still enduring, would reappear in her administration.  I thought Barack Obama would be different, but I was wrong about that.

    Next time, I would like some real change, please.  Electing a woman is no more real change than electing an African-American, if what you get is the same old policies of giving the 1% what they want.  I will gladly support some middle-aged white guy who wants to put people before banks and pipeline companies, jobs before hand-wringing over the deficit.  Not that I will get what I want.  I hardly ever do.

    •  2laneIA, regarding the statement (2+ / 0-)
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      ""I flat guarantee" no changes to Social Security."

      That statement was walked back on the Sunday following Biden's statement earlier that week (Tuesday) in the Virginia diner. Here's an excerpt from the AP piece, walking back his statement:

      Last week, Vice President Joe Biden made a more sweeping guarantee during a campaign swing in southern Virginia, telling a customer at a diner that Social Security will not be changed.

      "I guarantee you, flat guarantee you, there will be no changes in Social Security," Biden told the customer, according to a White House pool report. "I flat guarantee you."

      A Biden adviser said later the vice president was merely reassuring the woman that her benefits would not be changed. The adviser spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly about the issue.

      I'm not sure why that didn't get picked up more widely.  I saw it about a week after the piece was written.  So I'm not surprised that it has been reported that the Administration is poised "to trade 'cuts' for revenue."

      Here's the link to the piece.

      The article title is:  Dems Slam Ryan Over Social Security Privatization.  The three paragraphs are buried at the bottom of the article, paragraphs 18, 19 and 20 out of 23 paragraphs, LOL!

      Come to think of it, maybe that's why! :-)  


      “If a dog won’t come to you after having looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience.” -- Woodrow Wilson

      by musiccitymollie on Fri Jan 25, 2013 at 12:54:51 PM PST

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      •  Thanks. Link saved. (2+ / 0-)
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        I did wonder about that, because in the original reporting it was mentioned that all the people in the diner were older.  Of course chained CPI would affect them too, so he would have to have meant raising the age or reducing benefits long term.  Since it's Biden I'm sure he knows exactly what the impact of chained CPI is.  

        He said all the right things when campaigning in Iowa.  Fix Social Security by raising the earnings cap.  He would protect veterans benefits above all else. He understood the struggles of working people.  Etc.  But if he helps to cut a deal with chained CPI in it, it hurts elderly now and in the future, as well as disabled people, including veterans.  In which case, I will be inquiring how Martin O'Malley or Brian Schweitzer would deal with such issues.

        •  You're welcome. I didn't think of O'Malley or (2+ / 0-)
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          Schweitzer when replying to another commenter earlier.

          So, thanks for jogging my memory.  I'd have to check out some of their policy positions a bit closer, but generally-speaking, I have a favorable impression of them both.


          “If a dog won’t come to you after having looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience.” -- Woodrow Wilson

          by musiccitymollie on Fri Jan 25, 2013 at 02:09:50 PM PST

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          •  Schweitzer came to the 2008 Tom Harkin Steak Fry (1+ / 0-)
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            and gave a barnburner of a speech in the worst weather he could have had.  But.  He supports the Keystone Pipeline, which is a major reason why I recycled the Schweitzer signs I saved from that event.  O'Malley is unprepossessing on TV, but maybe he'll get better.  I really don't know what I think about either of them.  Regarding Biden, I feel a sense of betrayal.  Maybe that is unfair, but I would need to hear from him directly why not.  And in Iowa, he may have to respond to me directly.  Markos can grouse about Iowa, but we do put the hopefuls on the barbie.

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