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  •  stop playing stupid (2+ / 0-)
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    ten canvassers, sethtriggs

    you can argue that we shouldn't kill them until AFTER we prove in a court of law that they are traitors and terrorists

    fine

    but stop playing stupid by talking about them like you don't know with absolute certainty that they are guilty, cause you do

    that is just pure dishonesty

    you can argue that the President is not upholding our own laws that we decide for ourselves

    but fuck you for trying to paint him like he's the terrorist who killing innocent Americans

    fuck YOU

    Wouldn't you like to be a pepper too?

    by AntonBursch on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 09:26:00 PM PST

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    •  That is the entire point of a trial (3+ / 0-)
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      mkor7, cardboardurinal, MPociask

      to find out if they are guilty, otherwise there is a presumption of innocence. If you ignore that for some, it will get so much easier to ignore it for all.

      "We judge ourselves by our ideals; others by their actions. It is a great convenience." -- Howard Zinn

      by Mudderway on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 06:34:45 AM PST

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      •  And the current alternative to a trial... (0+ / 0-)

        The Pentagon a few months back admitted how they determined if a victim of a drone strike was an "enemy combatant."  

        If the dead body was a) male, and b) over the age of something like 16, then c) it was an enemy combatant.  

        Hurrah for robot death from above!  Why would any Pakistanis or Yemenis possibly be upset about our conduct?

      •  no shit (2+ / 0-)
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        ten canvassers, sethtriggs

        but painting the president of the united states with the language used to paint an actual terrorist... secretly planning to assassinate Americans... is purely dishonest

        plenty of people make the argument that these people who have died should have been tried first and only killed if found guilty in court.  that's a valid honest argument to make.

        which is why i suspect that people talking about the President in that kind of language this commenter did don't actually care about Americans being killed, they care about terrorists being killed.  why?  who the fuck knows?  

        Wouldn't you like to be a pepper too?

        by AntonBursch on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 08:46:26 AM PST

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