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  •  As it turns out… (5+ / 0-)

    They have found another source: Canadian Descendant (sic). The line is much as I suggested, although instead of through Mrs. Tudor (Edward's daughter, Elizabeth), it's through another of Edward/Richard's sisters.

    I love this stuff.

    •  As always... (1+ / 0-)
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      ...mitochondrial DNA rules! :)

      Let's hope. The question is, IF it turns out to be a match, it would be interesting if the current 'Saxe-Coburg-Gotha' descendents actually decide, for PR reasons, to offer a Royal burial to their murdered 'non-ancestor'. I know that British Royal remains are scattered from Winchester to Rouen.

      I suppose the easiest way would be to place his remains in the empty tomb in Leicester Cathedral !

      'Per Ardua Ad Astra'

      by shortfinals on Fri Jan 25, 2013 at 05:24:08 PM PST

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      •  On my first trip to London… (0+ / 0-)

        …we visited Westminster Abbey (who doesn't?) and after oohing and ahing over the nave, the Coronation Chair (with the Stone of Scone—since returned to the Auld Sod), and Poet's Corner, we repaired downstairs where we saw Wren's model. Wandering around I found a small, simple marker in one of the cubbies that said "John of Gaunt". I didn't have the grasp of the Royal Succession I do know, although the name was vaguely familiar. It seems to me, at this distant remove, that there was a lot of room for other personages in the area.

        Now since that was the patriarch of the House of Lancaster (spelling all this out for the colonials), and the Beauforts, and all he merited was that obscure location, perhaps they could squeeze a York in there, too.

        After all, up in Peterborough Cathedral, Mary Queen of Scots lay practically next to Katherine of Aragon—an equally awkward pairing (until Mary's son moved her "downtown").

        On a somewhat related note (well, Beafort related), have you read Katherine by Anya Seton? Best book ever, not made into a move, but should have. Seton was the daughter of Ernest Thompson Seton, founder of the American Boy Scouts. You Brits have some history of your own in that field.

        •  Oops! (1+ / 0-)
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          I mixed up my London churches—well, it has been twenty years, after all.

          Wren's model and John of Gaunt's crypt are in St. Pauls, not Westminster. All the other details are correct (I think).

          •  That's fine....sometimes my memory gets cloudy... (1+ / 0-)
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            ....I think I'm reaching maximum capacity! :)

            My favourite Wren Church? 'All Hallows Next The Tower' - full of history.

            Maybe a diary!

            'Per Ardua Ad Astra'

            by shortfinals on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 08:25:27 AM PST

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