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  •  I have a question for you NC, Christian Dem: (2+ / 0-)
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    why did Obama lose NC this time around?

    •  Romney ran it up in the rural areas (8+ / 0-)

      Obama swept the big counties--including my hometown of Charlotte--but by margins slightly smaller than what he racked up in 2008.  It only makes the ugly gerrymander the state legislature pushed through look even more egregious.

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      by Christian Dem in NC on Fri Jan 25, 2013 at 02:26:38 PM PST

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      •  Thanks, this is important information for the (5+ / 0-)

        future, this could be a  harbinger of the strength of the rural vote and some other element which happened in citiies too in, NC.  Get out the vote efforts can't be underestimated when you are dealing with multiple base groups who should each get special attention on and up to election day.

        •  Don't think the RePigs (1+ / 0-)
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          don't also know about "get out the vote" in rural areas.

          The Democrats have to stop ignoring the rural areas.  In upstate NY the Repigs specialize in dog whistling to people plus taking their concerns seriously.  Of course they then mount campaigns to demonize the Democrats.

          The Democrats need to do a better job, with education of the existing electorate, especially with regard to economics, put up a radio network which can stand up to Limpbaugh and his kin, and engage in the community on local issues.  There are many dirty, underhanded tricks practiced by the RePigs in small town America.

          The RePigs continually tell the local folks that the Democrats only care about NYC - and it works. It takes money, which is hard to come by.  Also hard to come by is getting people to run for office.  

          Just keeping the local county Democratic Party going is a challenge.

    •  He won nationally in 2008 by 7 (7+ / 0-)

      Won in 2012 by 4. Obama won NC by less than 1 percent four years ago, and lost by about 2 percent this time. That's around a 3 percent shift, so in other words, it almost exactly matches his national decline. I think that's pretty much the explanation.

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      by David Nir on Fri Jan 25, 2013 at 03:33:12 PM PST

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      •  Who were the 3% who did not vote or voted for (0+ / 0-)

        another.  What demographic is it in NC.  Did some people sit down, instead of getting out the vote the second time around.

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