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  •  This comment by chuckvw last night (7+ / 0-)

    in response to my wondering why Reid abandoned us:

    Bernie Sanders says Reid didn't have the votes (3+ / 0-)
    The Democratic votes... Seven of them...

    I trust Sanders on this.

    If this is true, we all need to know who these seven sellouts are.

    "Why reasonable people go stark raving mad when anything involving a Negro comes up, is something I don’t pretend to understand." ~ Atticus Finch, "To Kill a Mockingbird"

    by SottoVoce on Sat Jan 26, 2013 at 07:25:13 AM PST

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    •  But this is PLANNED. They don't want votes! (4+ / 0-)

      They never WANT to have the votes.  Have you not noticed that no matter how many votes they have even when they had 60 or 59 or 58 they never, ever, under any circumstances can get enough votes?  And they're politicizing the deaths of children over this gun "safety" (new pc term there folks be sure you use it on all efforts to pretend to control guns) bill when they all know that they will all line up like robots to recite their favorite, all purpose, forever useful phrase:  "We don't have the votes".  

      WHY do people let them get away with this?  Never ever tell me you do not have the votes.  The one and only thing I want to hear from you is how you got the votes to deliver to me what I asked you to do to get my vote.  

      For my new favorite phrase is "You don't have my vote".  You do not have my vote until you earn my vote and you do not get it by pretending to want to do things you have no intention whatever of doing.

      •  Yep. (0+ / 0-)

        Riverdaughter's Stuff About the Inaugural Speech.

        Now, I realize that there are still skeptics among the hopeful but I don’t think they’re skeptical enough.  What’s a little surprising is how quickly they forget that Obama started his first term with solid majorities in both houses and a filibuster proof majority in one of them and that public sentiment at the time was running so high against the banks that he could have pushed anything he wanted with the public’s blessing.  Oh sure, the right would have called him a socialist but the right would have done that anyway, no matter what he did.  When you’re leader of the free world with so much power and public urgency to do something, there are only a couple of reasons I can think of as to why you did relatively nothing.  The first reason is that you don’t know what the hick you’re doing and are therefore susceptible to bad advice.  The second is that you think “liberalism” is a dirty word and don’t want to hurt the people who put you in office.  The third possibility is that both are true.
    •  That's why (3+ / 0-)
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      tardis10, tb mare, semioticjim

      we needed Harry to bring it to a vote. We have a pretty good idea who they are, but if they can avoid casting a vote, they can avoid taking responsibility, which is what they do best.

      Oh wait, if they had had to vote they would have been forced to vote for reform or risk being exposed for the gutless cowards they are. Sometimes you have to cast a tough vote and go home and explain yourself to your constituents.

      •  I wish, but that doesn't even work because (2+ / 0-)
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        they take turns on who has to make the tough votes.  They won't require anyone up for reelection in 2014 to make a tough vote but anyone reelected in 2012 may have to take one for the team so they can say (drum roll, big sigh theatrical pose here)  "We don't have the votes".  But it is just totally rigged.  

        I say again, I'm not voting on what you pretended to do for me lately.

    •  If not mistaken (you might double check) (0+ / 0-)

      Reid
      Baucus
      Leahy
      Feinstein
      Boxer
      Manchin
      Pryor

      the most logical explanation I've heard being that they've all been around a long time, ie; served during Dem minority sessions and don't want to give up the "leverage"

      Just to be clear, I don't consider that a credible excuse, but might it serve to explain.

      "Show up. Pay attention. Tell the truth. And don't be attached to the results." -- Angeles Arrien

      by Sybil Liberty on Sat Jan 26, 2013 at 08:58:27 AM PST

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