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  •  I suspect that... (3+ / 0-)
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    one reason it might be popular among NYU students (apart from the high cost of living in NYC) is the fact that there are so many aspiring actresses there (at the Tisch School of the Arts) who maybe view it as some sort of acting gig.

    •  Most Tisch students... (2+ / 0-)
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      will ultimately end up working as prostitutes anyway.

      ;-)

      •  I'm just kidding, of course... (2+ / 0-)
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        but when I was at NYU, the joke (which was funny because it was true) was that more successful people in Hollywood had dropped out of Tisch than graduated from there.

        Since then, I think it's gotten a better rep/churned out more successful actors/actresses/directors.

        •  While Watching "The Actor's Studio" (2+ / 0-)
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          I've often wondered what the "success rate" is for the students you see in the crowd?

          I remember that during one of the SAG (Screen Actors Guild) strikes there was a big article about how only the upper echelon of actors & actresses make a "comfortable" living, and the vast majority of SAG members really need the sort of negotiated benefits that are fought over during the strikes.

          And remember that out of the entire pool of struggling actors, only a small amount are SAG members to begin with.

      •  On The Other Hand.... (2+ / 0-)
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        It might be good practice for the porn industry.

        And if all else fails, I'm sure some of these guys would be amenable to them taking on the full-time position of trophy wife.

    •  Also, the fact that... (2+ / 0-)
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      NYU tuition is now around $45k/year (slightly more for Tisch).

      •  "Is NYU’s Tuition Actually A Bargain?" (2+ / 0-)
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        NYU's justification for the cost of tuition from NYU’s Blog:

        While the education one can expect to receive at NYU is comparable to that of our collegiate peers, our location—and everything that comes with that—is far from equal. In short, paying 50k a year to live in Lower Manhattan is not the same as paying 50k to live in Lewiston, Maine. Our location in “the heart of Greenwich Village” is more valuable than almost any place in the country. That’s not just my opinion, but rather a fact of simple economics.
        •  Well, yeah... (2+ / 0-)
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          I think NYU is a far better deal for (a little less than) $50k than Bates College (in Lewiston, ME), where tuition is in excess of $50k.

          But I think the real justification is the cost/value of the real estate it's located on.

          •  One Of The Worst Private Schools For Student Debt (2+ / 0-)
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            From the Village Voice (via NYU Local):

            Much of the article focuses on Lyndsey, an NYU alumna who took out over $300,000 in loans to graduate from NYU and subsequently found herself forced to make the choice between working in the industry she actually studied for and making her loan payments ($1,232 a month!). The rest of the article details why NYU is so bad at student debt, which essentially boils down to the fact that NYU is using student tuition to finance its massive expansion plans and vision of a Global University in an effort to become a New Ivy:
            “But at the same time, NYU’s status as an iconic and prolific generator of student debt is an awkward fit with the populist outrage of national education funding activists and Occupy Wall Street protesters. Prospective NYU students have less-expensive options, and NYU isn’t exactly positioning itself as an affordable institution for the masses. In fact, its tuition is so high and its financial aid so low precisely because the university is on a multi-decade spending spree, attempting to launch itself into the highest tiers of elite universities with a state-of-the-art campus and top-notch faculty.

            That sort of aspirational spending—the idea that, as former NYU president L. Jay Oliva once said, “There’s no way to get excellence, other than buying your way into it”—is, of course, only the institutional mirror of the aspirational spending NYU’s students are doing when they pay their tuition bills. For many, the belief that a diploma from a prestigious school like NYU can catapult a student into a higher socioeconomic register makes NYU’s staggering tuition seem worth it.

            There is a significant difference between these double strands of big dreams and lavish spending, though: NYU is financing its dreams with student tuition. The students are financing theirs with enormous loans that can weigh on them and limit their options for decades to come.”

            •  NYU was much more affordable when I was there... (2+ / 0-)
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              I think tuition when I graduated (1996) was *only* around $30K.

              Thankfully, I didn't need to take out any student loans.

            •  My father also went to NYU... (2+ / 0-)
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              and after he got his Bachelor's degree there (in accounting), he enrolled in the business school to go for his MBA. His family didn't have a lot of money, so to help pay for his tuition, he was working for the school (doing financial auditing). In that capacity, he discovered that someone was stealing hundreds of thousands of dollars from the school, and brought the info to the attention of his boss, who then proceeded to fire him (forcing him to drop out). As it turned out, his boss is the one who was doing the embezzling.

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