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  •  And yet, any mention of the 2nd amendment..... (2+ / 0-)
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    ... and it's place, courtesy of the Founders to empower We The People to defend ourselves from such a worst case scenario of a "science-fiction like total-information awareness surveillance police state"...

    ... Is regarded in certain quarters as being right wing nuttery. Granted, in some ways it is, but the Founders knew all too well of what they speak, having just defeated a government gone awry. At the time, the most powerful government and military machine on earth... the British Empire.

    Is it possible, that the very propaganda machine is pushing this meme of "2nd Amendment as the mechanism of the people to fight against even its own government gone awry" is crazy people talking, in order to defend itself from the people fighting back against the propaganda machine?

    I'm not advocating, just pointing out that IF this propaganda machine was in action, that it would argue vehemently that people intending to use force against a government gone corrupt, are themselves crazy as a way of preempting any opposition.

    And there would be efforts to over blow the significance of gun related incidents as a means of turning the populace against gun ownership.... culminating in efforts to disarm/confiscate the weapons in the hands of the people, for their own safety.

    Just some thoughts, don't shoot the messenger.

    •  I understant your point. (3+ / 0-)
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      zett, The Jester, angel d

      And I suspect others do, too.

      Personally, I'm committed to non-violent approaches on moral grounds. Second, the would-be freedom fighters lost the arms race to the U.S. government long, long ago. Also, I believe the right approach would work. Unfortunately, it involves millions of relatively, effectively unengaged Democrats--including most of those who focus solely on electoral politics and representative government--becoming engaged with direct action and mass protest in a way they aren't even contemplating today, a way in which they are ever likely to undertake.

      As I said elsewhere in this thread:

      Picture 3 million or more flooding the streets, squares and parks of D.C. every day and proclaiming a specific set of demands involving election reform, legislative reform, ethics reform, financial sector reform and a 15-year plan for a war effort on Climate Change, and not leaving until they have happened.

      Think of the organization, planning, logistics and infrastructure that would be necessary. Think of the message control.

      Frankly, it's either going to be this scenario or it will be violence, either from right-wing militias or the eco-terrorist types (eco here referring to economics and/or or ecology).

      The Class, Terror and Climate Wars are indivisible and the short-term outcome will affect the planet for centuries. -WiA "When you triangulate everything, you can't even roll downhill..." - PhilJD

      by Words In Action on Sat Jan 26, 2013 at 08:41:39 AM PST

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      •  p.s., it reminds of the Deep Green Movement (1+ / 0-)
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        and the underground it espouses but claims not to have.

        On the one hand, I can understand why some would embrace the moral position that saving the planet trumps non-violence, especially since the non-violence that is being used to today is so absurdly ineffective, given the size of the resistance and the power of the opposition. So, they assume, the only solution for an over-matched resistance -- over-matched because too many are complacent and/or distracted (i.e., unengaged) -- are the tactics of all committed groups in this position: terrorism.

        On the other, I personally can't go there. I mean, I can see civil disobedience, direct action and mass protest...I just can't go with physical violence for moral reasons.

        The Class, Terror and Climate Wars are indivisible and the short-term outcome will affect the planet for centuries. -WiA "When you triangulate everything, you can't even roll downhill..." - PhilJD

        by Words In Action on Sat Jan 26, 2013 at 08:49:26 AM PST

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