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  •  The Real Reason it won't Pass . . . (4+ / 0-)

    Governor Ultrasound thinks that he can win the popular vote in 2016 if he is the candidate for President.  McDonald is not opposed for any altruistic reason, for sure.  No Republican even knows the meaning of the term!

    Dick Cheney said, "Pi$$ on 'em!" And, Ronald Reagan replied, "That's a Great Idea. Let's Call it 'Trickle Down Economics!"

    by NM Ray on Sat Jan 26, 2013 at 07:03:02 AM PST

    •  yeah, I would agree. (1+ / 0-)
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      Nowhere Man

      I think they have given up on PA and Michigan as winnable states.

      But to concede Ohio as forever unwinnable  by a republican  presidential canidate is realy sometthing.

      I'm reminded by the move of my Massachusetts legislature when they thought john Kerry would win the Presidential election in 2004  and...  Mitt Romney was Govenor....

      changed the law regarding filling empty seat from Gov appoints to special election.   And in the end it gave us Scott Brown  and now  the prospect of yet again another Senate election with scott Brown....  with yet another one in 2014....

      So law  of unintended consequences here.    Be funny if  the next Presidential election resulted in Republicans winning one of these states outright,  like say wisconsin/ohio  and having the election lost because of it.

      •  Indeed, this could come back to bite them (2+ / 0-)
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        in the A$$.  The aim of gerrymandering is to get your own party numerous seats by a small margin, while conceding your opponents a few seats by a large margin, rendering their excess votes useless.  To use an analogy, it doesn't matter if you win a baseball game by one run or ten runs; you still only get one victory.  Those other nine runs are meaningless in the standings.

        However, it would take only a small shift in voter preferences to swing a sizeable number of districts the other way.  

    •  McDonnell (0+ / 0-)

      but also the Lt. gov whose vote would be needed to break a 20-20 tie in the state senate

      "We didn't set out to save the world; we set out to wonder how other people are doing and to reflect on how our actions affect other people's hearts." - Pema Chodron

      by teacherken on Sat Jan 26, 2013 at 07:43:57 AM PST

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    •  or VP candidate. No R who thinks a state (0+ / 0-)

      can be won wants this "reform".  It has to be a state they have both gerrymandered and aren't likely to win.  Probably MI, PA fit that bill.

      That's not even "gun control". It's more like "massacre control".

      by Inland on Sat Jan 26, 2013 at 09:04:59 AM PST

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      •  I propose that it could and SHOULD be a red flag (1+ / 0-)
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        in all future statewide office races to mobilize urban areas om these states to both get out the vote and deny Republicans statewide office for the foreseeable future.

        In Virginia NOVA turning out in force could do that job and many of us are fully fed up with Richmond's neglect and meddling due to "Southside" control. Used well this could be gasoline poured on an anti-Richmond ember. Just the attempt should be a slogan next year.

        The only foes that threaten America are the enemies at home, and those are ignorance, superstition, and incompetence. [Elbert Hubbard]

        by pelagicray on Sat Jan 26, 2013 at 09:38:02 AM PST

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