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  •  Cover up worse than the crime? (21+ / 0-)

    not when the cover up is the CIA

    not when the cover up is the government

    not when you control the "justice" system


    what would have happened if Germany had won WW II

    would there have been prosecution for crimes against humanity?

    •  It is important to note (7+ / 0-)
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      it was the industrialists in Germany that were prosecuted for their assistance.

      "Til you're so fucking crazy you can't follow their rules" John Lennon - Working Class Hero

      by Horace Boothroyd III on Sat Jan 26, 2013 at 10:17:22 AM PST

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      •  And telecom corporations... (11+ / 0-)

        ... should have been prosecuted for illegal wiretapping when they did so under only a direct order from Dumbya and/or Dickie with no legal search warrant [presumably Obama is still doing the same since he voted for FISA fiasco '08 after he said he would not vote for the bill with telecom immunity intact].

        All the people involved with Too Big To Fail should have been prosecuted.

        Et cetera.  The list goes on and on and on and on....

        I have a hunch that the Bushistas stayed home on inauguration day [or were invited not to attend] because just the sight of those lying war criminals would remind us all of the fact that Obama refused to investigate their lies and war crimes and did not end their illegal and unconstitutional wars and that Obama continues to use their illegal and unconstitutional executive powers as well as the unconstitutional legislation that takes away our rights, all contrary to the US Constitution.

        I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

        by NonnyO on Sat Jan 26, 2013 at 11:32:36 AM PST

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        •  The Got Hope? sticker came off my truck (2+ / 0-)
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          the day Obama voted for the Telecom Immunity bill he'd sworn to filibuster just two weeks prior.

          Still voted for him, but my political efforts for the rest of the year were focused on defeating Prop 8.

          "I have often seen people uncivil by too much civility, and tiresome in their courtesy." Michel de Montaigne

          by JesseCW on Sat Jan 26, 2013 at 11:29:45 PM PST

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          •  My 2008 "issue"... (2+ / 0-)
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            ... was impeachment and/or putting the Bushistas, top to bottom, on trial for perjury and war crimes.

            By summer, '07, long with all of the "frontrunner candidates" whose opinions were already known, the last one to give his opinion about that subject was Obama.  The answer did not satisfy me.  Consequently, along with all the other "frontrunners," I could also not support Obama.  [I ended up voting against the Tundra Tramp, so voted "for" Obama.  I had planned for a write-in candidate until the first three sentences out of Mooselina's mouth let me know she was as, or more, stupid than Dumbya, and - like it or not - I had to vote against that pair of incredibly stupid looney tunes.]

            Shortly after that stunning news was published in the summer of '07, Bill Moyers had John Nichols and Bruce Fein on the Journal talking about impeachment.  John Nichols talks about presidential power being stored in a little metaphorical cherry wood box.  He was positively prophetic.  Bruce Fein was so pissed he was spluttering while trying to get all his words out, and in favor of impeaching both Dumbya and Dickie.  This was one of Moyers' finest shows ever (even if I was disappointed that no one mentioned that Kucinich had already brought a personal resolution for impeachment to the floor of the House (in a very long speech for the first of three impeachment resolutions - I think YouTube has it; Kucinich is a good speaker, even if he has now flummoxed most of us by accepting a job with Faux Snooze).

            Summer of '08, there was the FISA fiasco '08 vote.  Another reason not to support Obama.  Three days later, Obama announced that if he were elected he'd keep Dumbya's 'office of faith-based initiatives' which is run out of the White House after Dumbya created it with an executive order right after he took the oath of office the first time.  That week was one of the low points of the campaign for me and I was pissed because I figured that a Con Law prof would eliminate an office that is a clear violation of the Constitution's separation of church and state.  I had to vote for the "lesser of two evils" - again! - and I so detest being coerced into choosing the lesser of two evils.  Just once before I die I want to actually vote for a candidate I can actually support.  [BTW, check out kos' diaries from that period of time.  He was also pissed about Obama voting for FISA fiasco '08.  That all set the tone for his future presidency.]

            After the first oath of office, there was one disappointment after another heaped on our heads.  Whatever positive things Obama has done will be far overshadowed by the lack of upholding the Constitution and keeping those unconstitutional and illegal wars going long after we should have pulled out (worse, he added drone bombing before the end of his first week in office), Gitmo hasn't closed, and the failure to repeal the Patriot Act, MCA '06 (worse, he added MCA '09), FISA fiasco '08 and officially give us back our rights, nor has he written a countermanding executive order to abolish the 'office of faith-based initiatives.'

            Adding insult to injury with the health insurance debacle, we are stuck providing corporate executive bonuses, shareholder dividends for insurance, medical, and pharmaceutical corporations.  I still think it's unconstitutional, no matter how $COTU$ ruled.

            Then there was this recently.  I wish Obama would just switch his political affiliation to R and be done with it.  That could put us out of our misery and allow us all to move on to support a progressive candidate, not a DINO.

            To say Obama has disappointed me by compromising our rights out of existence and allowing even more corporations to be permanently attached to their own Treasury Teats would be the understatement of the year..., and his second term isn't even over yet.  I'm sure we're due for more "bipartisan compromises" in the future.  I've learned to detest that label, and Obama is in love with the phrase and his projection of himself being the great "bipartisan leader" for offering compromises before he even needs to.  He's a tool of corporations, big banks, and Casino Wall street... and a fool.

            I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

            by NonnyO on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 12:55:31 AM PST

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