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    Mark Twains 'Roughing It' this year. I highly recommend this book as it is a accurate picture of what the lawless gun crazy wild west was about. He went to the western territories on stage coach in 1861 with his with his brother who was working for Lincoln's government. He serialized his journal in 1872. It is as usual satirical and full of funny tall tales. He does not disguise how disturbing he finds the violence and gun play in the territories. All we seem to learn is how to make guns that are more efficient and can kill faster. Technology has out paced our societies progress as civil humans.    

    'There was absolutely no semblance of law there' .....
    Force was the only recognized authority. The commonest misunderstandings were settled on the spot with the revolver or the knife. Murders were done in open day and with sparkling frequency, and nobody thought of inquiring into them'.......No self respecting gentleman would dream of setting forth in the morning without his pistol visibly displayed.'


    •  and yet we're told they took the guns away (7+ / 0-)

      I don't know who to believe...Mark Twain who was there or some gun nut of today.

      •  well..... (13+ / 0-)
        He went to the western territories on stage coach in 1861 with his brother who was working for Lincoln's government.
        His travels were when the territories were first being organized. Governments were just being organized. Law enforcement was just being organized.  

        Read the histories.  Mark Twain's descriptions are accurate, but he was traveling through just as the territories were being settled.  Soon, exactly due to the violence he described, "lawmen" were making their attempts to tamp it down.  

        OK Corral and all that.

        1881. Twain's travels were in 1861, twenty years earlier.

        The fight has come to represent a time in American history when the frontier was open range for outlaws opposed by law enforcement that was spread thin over vast territories, leaving some areas unprotected.

        To reduce crime in Tombstone, on April 19, 1881, the Tombstone's city council passed an ordinance prohibiting anyone from carrying a deadly weapon.[24] Anyone entering town was required to deposit their weapons at a livery or saloon soon after entering town. The ordinance led directly to the confrontation that resulted in the shoot out.[25]

        That type of law was common in frontier towns.
        Ordinance No. 9:

        "To Provide against Carrying of Deadly Weapons" (effective April 19, 1881).

        Section 1. It is hereby declared unlawful to carry in the hand or upon the person or otherwise any deadly weapon within the limits of said city of Tombstone, without first obtaining a permit in writing.

        Section 2: This prohibition does not extend to persons immediately leaving or entering the city, who, with good faith, and within reasonable time are proceeding to deposit, or take from the place of deposit such deadly weapon.

        Section 3: All fire-arms of every description, and bowie knives and dirks, are included within the prohibition of this ordinance.

        "The law is meant to be my servant and not my master, still less my torturer and my murderer." -- James Baldwin. July 11, 1966.

        by YucatanMan on Sat Jan 26, 2013 at 05:30:02 PM PST

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      •  apparently, comprehension isn't your strong suit. (5+ / 0-)

        "and yet we're told they took the guns away"

        they did, after the towns were organized, and official law took hold. most especially after a territory gained statehood.  unfettered gunplay is not good for business.

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