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  •  In the last 30 years voters have become even (0+ / 0-)

    more unforgiving of losing primary and vice presidential
    candidates.  They want to move on.  Think of Quayle, Lieberman, Edwards, Palin.  

         I love Harkin but his time as a kingmaker is past.  You are suggesting he could establish some sort of parallel organization that would rival OFA.  If he could do this, why didn't his endorsement of Howard Dean (who I also love) in 2004 propel Dean to the nomination?  You really think Harkin (who wold be 77 in 2016) could get enough delegates to make a difference?  Why would he even want to?  He ran for president 20 years ago and failed.

    "Maybe we should march on the campus of the electoral college and occupy it until they change their vote"--some wingnut, Worldnetdaily

    by chicago minx on Sat Jan 26, 2013 at 08:08:09 PM PST

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    •  Timing & Aging (0+ / 0-)

      Two timing issues seem relevant:

      1. The filibuster reform bust is a potential catalyst, and

      2. Harkin's announced non-candidacy for Senate-reelection gives him two years in which he is free to campaign, while other potential candidates are generally not yet able to declare (or even to decide to declare) their candidacies.

      Some things look worse with age, like the centrism that Clinton ran on in 1992 when he defeated Harkin in primaries,

      Other things look better with age, like potentially Harkin.

      The failure of Dean's 2004 candidacy does not necessarily mean that Harkin could not generate substantial support from Progressives in 2013-2014.

    •  failed primary candidates (0+ / 0-)

      Um, remember Romney[the fact that he lost is irrelevant, anyone who wins the nom has a legitimate chance of winning the presidency regardless of supposed baggage]?  And people want Hillary to run.  I think mostly people don't remember that failed primary candidates ran assuming they didn't spectatularly implode[fairly or not I'd include Dean and his scream in this category].

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