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  •  Isn't law enforcement supposed to discourage (18+ / 0-)

    taking the law into your own hands?????

    http://thinkprogress.org/...

    Before Calling 911, Sheriff Tells Residents To Get ‘In The Game’ With A Gun

    Wisconsin County Sheriff David Clarke is facing backlash for telling Milwaukee, Wisconsin residents to get a gun for emergencies, rather than call 911. In a radio ad, Clarke claims personal and public safety is no longer a “spectator sport,” and urges civilians to “get in the game” before police arrive to a scene:

     

     I’m Sheriff David Clarke, and I want to talk to you about something personal…your safety. It’s no longer a spectator sport; I need you in the game, but are you ready?

        With officers laid-off and furloughed, simply calling 9-1-1 and waiting is no longer your best option. You can beg for mercy from a violent criminal, hide under the bed, or you can fight back; but are you prepared? Consider taking a certified safety course in handling a firearm so you can defend yourself until we get there. You have a duty to protect yourself and your family. We’re partners now. Can I count on you?

    I want 1 less Tiny Coffin, Why Don't You? Support The President's Gun Violence Plan.

    by JML9999 on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 12:07:01 PM PST

    •  collateral damage (11+ / 0-)

      no longer just an export?

      The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

      by Laurence Lewis on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 12:12:27 PM PST

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    •  As I Recall He Was Lying About All His Stats. (7+ / 0-)

      There hadn't been layoffs and violent crime was down.

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 12:52:51 PM PST

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    •  With officers laid off and furloughed (4+ / 0-)
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      Thanks to Scott Walker and his gang of Republicans, if the police have been decimated with lay offs and furloughs, then maybe the sheriff has a point. Decimate the police, and lawlessness and anarchy takes the place of ordered liberty.  Not that the Republican big wigs and their wealthy owners would care - they live in gated communities with private armed guards.

      When the Boston police went on strike in 1919:

      Over the night of September 9–10, the city witnessed an outbreak of hooliganism and looting. Some was rowdy behavior that scared respectable citizens, such as youths throwing rocks at streetcars and overturning the carts of street vendors. More overtly criminal activity included the smashing of store windows and looting the displays. . . . Violence peaked the next evening, the night of September 10–11. Businesses were better prepared. Some had boarded up and others stayed open all night with armed guards visible to discourage thieves taking advantage of the strike. Gamblers played dice in open view, and women had their handbags snatched. But the Guard proved inexperienced at handling crowds and they were quick to assert control without regard for loss of life. Gunfire in South Boston left two dead and others wounded. Scollay Square, a center of amusement halls and theaters, was reportedly the scene of a riot where one died.  Whether the crowds were threatening property or making trouble because they were in sympathy with the strikers is unknown. The death total ultimately reached nine.
      Crushing the strike, restoring law and order, led to Calvin Coolidge's nomination for vice president at the 1920 Republican National Convention, and he ascended to the presidency when President Harding likely died of natural causes, or less likely committed suicide, or was murdered by his wife.

      "We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals, now we know that it is bad economics." Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Jan. 20, 1937

      by Navy Vet Terp on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 01:02:02 PM PST

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    •  We need to take the law into our own hands. (4+ / 0-)

      Credit card processor no longer doing business with online gun dealers diary here The credit card processor.  Intuit Payment Solutions  

      Write to visa and mastercharge.  Ask them to do the same thing.

      Write to Amazon.  Tell them thanks for donating to the gun buy back in Seattle

      Ask Walmart to stop with the guns.  They need some positive PR now, they just might go for it.  

      If we have a million moms, surely we could write a million e-mails.


      Your comment made me laugh, because of the comment I just made in another diary.  I just had to re-post mine here and marry them up here.

      My gun control petition was shot down.

      by 88kathy on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 01:26:36 PM PST

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    •  Since when? (2+ / 0-)
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      Self defense has always been a personal prerogative. Last I looked, we don't have enough police officers to post one by everybody's side 24/7.

      Does that mean we all need guns?
      I certainly hope not.

      LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

      by dinotrac on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 01:58:10 PM PST

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    •  There may be a liability issue (1+ / 0-)
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      When he said "defend yourself until we get there", some Zimmermann type is likely to misunderstand it, and some sue-happy type will go after the Sheriff's office. Just imagine what a lawyer could do quoting "We're partners now".

      Come to think of it, it wouldn't have to be a Zimmermann, it could just be something going wrong in what would otherwise be a legitimate act of crime prevention.

      Remember, though the huge difference between what a police officer can do and what can be done in immediate self-defense. Cops are required to go looking for trouble: civilians can and should try to avoid it and only fight when necessary.

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