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  •  I wish they'd dump that petition website (10+ / 0-)

    It's a national embarrassment.  I admit, when I first heard about it, I thought the Death Star petition was funny.  But since then I've come to see the petition site as just another indication that we come close to Idiocracy with each passing year.

    The government launches the site in an attempt to be more responsive to its citizenry, and what do they get in response?  Dumb jokes, crackpot ideas, petitions for secession, assassination requests, and hate-filled rants.  It's pathetic.

    I've got an idea: lets file a petition asking that any time the President mentions John Boehner in a speech, a loud fart noise will be played over the loudpeakers.

    Americans of all stripes complain that the government doesn't represent them, but given the chance to communicate what they'd like done better, they waste their time forcing someone to respond to this crap.    

    To believe that markets determine value is to believe that milk comes from plastic bottles. Bromley (1985)

    by sneakers563 on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 09:12:02 PM PST

    •  Hard to argue with one side of this, (6+ / 0-)

      but it is only one side of it. Fact is, many progressive petitions have gotten attention this way.

      There ARE, in addition to the crack pots, "Americans of all stripes," who earnestly try to be heard through petitions to the White House. And, the media pays attention to these petitions is they get big enough.

      Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater.  This petition was summarily taken down, as it should of been.  And imo, everyone who signed it should have their names passed on to the FBI.  At least the crack pots leave obvious foot prints with this, rather than just foaming at the mouth all over the internet.  

      "A typical vice of American politics is the avoidance of saying anything real on real issues." Theodore Roosevelt.

      by StellaRay on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 09:46:43 PM PST

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      •  Admittedly, I'm sure a big part of it is that it's (4+ / 0-)

        only the funny / crazy ones that get lots of media attention.  You're right, the petitions probably help some people.  I just wish it wasn't also an excuse to be a crackpot / secessionist / snark. The country has real problems, but instead of dealing with those problems, this is what we do.  The President asks for suggestions, and he gets "Kill yourself!", "Deport Piers Morgan!", "Build a Death Star!".  Meh.

        To believe that markets determine value is to believe that milk comes from plastic bottles. Bromley (1985)

        by sneakers563 on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 10:04:06 PM PST

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        •  Yeah, it does indeed suck (2+ / 0-)
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          that we can't outlaw crack pots.  And believe me, I share your frustration with this crap.  But again, to concentrate on just the negative is not the whole picture here.

          "A typical vice of American politics is the avoidance of saying anything real on real issues." Theodore Roosevelt.

          by StellaRay on Sun Jan 27, 2013 at 10:36:03 PM PST

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        •  I hope they have a kind of spam filter in place (2+ / 0-)
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          that sends the petitions in violation to a separate folder that is overseen by the FBI or Secret Service. I don't think that would be hard.

          Something that doesn't make good sense, makes bad sense. That means someone is being deliberately hurtful & selfish. Look for motives behind actions & words.

          by CA wildwoman on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 05:57:46 AM PST

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          •  Considering how (0+ / 0-)

            the petition in question was taken down very quickly, it is apparent that there is some sort of oversight.

            The question here seems to be what to about petitions that are overtly illegal.

            I am not religious, and did NOT say I enjoyed sects.

            by trumpeter on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 12:54:24 PM PST

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    •  I suppose it's true. (2+ / 0-)
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      For all of its initial PR value as a sign of an open and attentive administration, the end result is stupid stuff like this (or the petition to have Texas secede, as another example). It gives us an unsettling insight into the depth and range of Teh Stupid out there in the American public.

      Maybe someone should post that old Twain quote above the message field on the petition site:

      Sometimes it's better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.

      Nothing requires a greater effort of thought than arguments to justify the rule of non-thought. -- Milan Kundera

      by Dale on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 05:35:56 AM PST

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    •  You took it as an attempt to be more responsive? (0+ / 0-)

      I took it as a vehicle for people to think their voices were being heard louder, while the backend is effectively just another semi-straight shot to the round file. The one detour is a filter to trap politically beneficial "citizen input" and trumpet from the mountaintops about how 'responsive' they all are to the little people citizens.

      Regardless, petitions to have the President executed are at best disturbing and merit investigation. Frankly I'd assume the worst. There's a certain segment of the population that takes hating people of a certain skin color very seriously. Best to not ignore their threats.

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