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  •  4-6 months or suicide (eternity); (0+ / 0-)

    hmmm, which would a sane person choose?

    "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the universe." -- Albert Einstein

    by Neuroptimalian on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 07:37:31 PM PST

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    •  He wasn't insane. He was depressed. (1+ / 0-)
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      He was brilliant young person caught up in the flaws of the system. History will expose the truth of this crime and it will not look back favorably on the judge. She lacked the imagination to see that Aaron was testing the waters of a system that was outdated. He tried to expose its flaws and got caught up in a web of entrapment meant for real criminals. But never mind. A punitive mindset is difficult to educate.

      •  According to Swartz' father, ... (0+ / 0-)

        he was never diagnosed as depressed, nor was he ever treated for any such condition.  To the extent that he was depressed because of the consequences he faced, that's entirely believable ... but not an excuse to justify avoiding them.

        Swartz was not "caught up" in anything.  He was on a personal campaign of his own design and instigated by him.  That he misjudged is evident, but he's no different than anyone else who commits crimes and is then expected to face the consequences.

        As to Ortiz's "lack of imagination", prosecutors are SWORN to uphold the law.  It's not their job to lobby Congress to change them, they merely enforce them.  If Swartz's cause was so just, where were the activists prior to his arrest?  Why weren't they lobbying Congress?  Petitioning the White House?  This only became a "cause" after Swartz was arrested.

        "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the universe." -- Albert Einstein

        by Neuroptimalian on Tue Jan 29, 2013 at 07:32:28 AM PST

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        •  Sadly we do not have the tens or hundreds (1+ / 0-)
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          of millions of dollars necessary to lobby for changes.  Tell me, have you ever called up your congressperson and had them flat out say to you "well how much did you donate to our campaign"?  Sorry but money talks, everything else walks.

          You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

          by Throw The Bums Out on Tue Jan 29, 2013 at 07:57:45 AM PST

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          •  And yet Swartz did have that kind of money, ... (0+ / 0-)

            if the amount he reportedly paid his defense attorneys is any indication.  He also, given his fame, had the exposure and clout to lead a public campaign and seek donations to finance the cause.  He either didn't even think of that, or discarded the idea without even trying.

            "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the universe." -- Albert Einstein

            by Neuroptimalian on Tue Jan 29, 2013 at 01:50:55 PM PST

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            •  you know this how? (1+ / 0-)
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              the amount he reportedly paid his defense attorneys
              Link? You need to be sourcing these claims.

              Unless they're just your personal opinions, thats different.

            •  It hurt his psyche to ask for help (0+ / 0-)

              that is a main, significant reason leading to his demise, he could not stand the thought.

              PLEASE do some reading on this subject before you type anymore untruths. EVERYTHING you claim has ALREADY been refuted by people who are VERY knowledgeable about this situation - his family, close friends, lawyers etc.

              PLEASE JUST STOP.

              "I'm sculpting now. Landscapes mostly." ~ Yogi Bear

              by eXtina on Tue Jan 29, 2013 at 03:22:49 PM PST

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              •  The evidence worth considering ... (0+ / 0-)

                is that from independent sources.  The rest is tainted for various reasons.  Just so it's clear, I feel VERY badly for his family and how he treated them ... from the shame he brought upon his parents to how he will have left them feeling as a result of his suicide.  I have no doubt that, when their shock and grief subsides, they're going to be very angry at him.

                And what kind of a defense is "it hurt his psyche"?  Sheesh.  It sure didn't hurt his psyche to do a LOT of things he shouldn't have.  His crimes notwithstanding, what he did to his family will torture them for the remainder of their lives.  

                "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the universe." -- Albert Einstein

                by Neuroptimalian on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 12:14:05 AM PST

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    •  Well, Albert, I am sure about Neuroptimailian. (1+ / 0-)
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      Cold, callous prick.

      The GOP says you have to have an ID to vote, but $ Millionaire donors should remain anonymous?

      by JVolvo on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 11:07:29 PM PST

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      •  Too bad I don't have one, ... (0+ / 0-)

        or else your attempt at a sexist insult might have hurt my feelings.  Not.  (Why so many use body parts as an element of their insults is a poser.  Must be a lack of imagination.)

        Laws exist for a reason.  They should be enforced.  If you disagree with any of them, lobby for change.  Monday-morning quarterbacking afterwards doesn't count for beans.

        "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the universe." -- Albert Einstein

        by Neuroptimalian on Tue Jan 29, 2013 at 07:37:34 AM PST

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