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  •  Maybe some do and some don't... (3+ / 0-)
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    They KNOW there is inequality, and they don't care.  In their Randian minds, if you die earlier that's your punishment
    Inequality is simply nature - all are created equal but by the time a person is out of the womb the inequalities of life exist. You can care about people but will never be able to prevent inequality (nature or nurture).  

    People will die earlier because of the consequences of a lot of completely apolitical factors. They're not suffering punishment but consequences. And we can improve on those trends.

    Experiencing the consequences of one's life - not choices or fate but simply the lives we're born into - is a fact. Progressives and Democrats are forced to spend so many resources on simply defending civil rights (from real RW and Randian types) that it prevents making more inroads to mitigating those consequences.

    But we can create coalitions with conservatives on some of these issues if we and they can tolerate diversity of values and focus instead on on the science and goals.

    •  People haven't become more congenitally unequal (3+ / 0-)
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      howabout, ebohlman, Odysseus

      Increased inequality is the result of policy choices.

      •  Would you believe that in the 1930s (1+ / 0-)
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        some Very Serious People were actually suggesting that the high unemployment rates of the time were due to "delayed activation of genes for mental retardation"? Seriously, they claimed that people were no longer working because they had gotten dumber in their own lifetimes.

        Writing in all lower-case letters should be a capital offense

        by ebohlman on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 10:48:12 PM PST

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        •  would love to hear more re: 1930's delirium (1+ / 0-)
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          thanks for posting - you wouldn't have a reference or research tips would you?

          i'd like to learn more about anti-unemployed sentiment in the 1930's, i think that part of the story has been kind of suppressed/forgotten in the wake of the New Deal  

          "Words ought to be a little wild, for they are the assaults of thoughts on the unthinking." John Maynard Keynes, via Paul Krugman

          by impatient on Tue Jan 29, 2013 at 12:03:25 AM PST

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      •  Not congenitally and I don't know about (0+ / 0-)

        ...more or less inequality - except, of course, for the current greater wealth and income disparities, which is not what I was referencing. I'm not talking about congenital issues but there's a lot more influences on everyone's development that policies.

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