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  •  Yep. I've paid for copies of my birth (16+ / 0-)

    certificate at least twice.

    I needed to do some business at social security recently, and they wanted another. I can't find mine. The product of being poor and having to move a lot and live in places that have flooded basements and having to flee abusive relationships. I managed to get past the birth certificate problem, but just barely.

    Now, my drivers license is overdue for renewal. I haven't even looked to see if they're going to require one. Even though they've seen one every time I got married and divorced.

    I've probably spent $100 on birth certificate copies. And not only have they gotten more expensive, they're harder to get. You can't just go in and buy a copy anymore. Now you have to send away, and if you need it within 6 weeks, it costs an additional $50.

    "Mitt Romney looks like the CEO who fires you, then goes to the Country Club and laughs about it with his friends." ~ Thomas Roberts MSNBC

    by second gen on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 01:26:29 PM PST

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    •  I can't even mail in for it (9+ / 0-)

      unless I use a "private" vendor or use a money order or cashiers check.  And then wait.  And wait.

      Easier to bring cash with me and deal with the Bureau of Vital Statistics at the Courthouse.

      There already is class warfare in America. Unfortunately, the rich are winning.

      by Puddytat on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 01:31:02 PM PST

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      •  in this state the private vendor charges $20 (6+ / 0-)

        for you to get a $20 document

      •  At least you're in the same state. I'm in CA, but (6+ / 0-)

        born in Michigan.  Hope I don't have to do this, too.

        People who pass these bullshit laws obviously have staff who can take care of things like this for them.

        •  You will (5+ / 0-)

          REAL ID is a federal law.  It won't kick in for a couple of more years, so Wisconsin is offering people who need to renew their drivers licenses after January 14 of this year to get one now rather than return and spend more time and money in the future.

          There already is class warfare in America. Unfortunately, the rich are winning.

          by Puddytat on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 02:22:21 PM PST

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          •  is the Real Id the same as 'enhanced DL'? (4+ / 0-)

            I live very near the Canadian border  (Wa.) and to keep everyone from having to get a passport to cross there is the 'enhanced drivers license' (costs extra of course). Which also has more info on me than I can possibly remember encrypted on it and I even have to keep it in a 'sleeve; to protect it's magnetism.
            I was told a signal from it could be picked up within 50 meters of the border,but I doubt it is restricted to the border and I have no idea if having a certain wallet would make any difference in blocking a signal.
            Is that like Real Id ?
            If so, it sucks not only because of costs but the amount of info out there in the wind on your personal life. I mean who else can pick up the same info  and what can/will they do with it ?

            without the ants the rainforest dies

            by aliasalias on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 03:11:48 PM PST

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          •  Yeah, I'll start getting my paperwork in order (2+ / 0-)
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            Puddytat, commonmass

            But I do agree that it puts substantially more burden on women than men, what with the name changes for marriage (especially if someone's been married more than once.  I wonder if that could be a basis for a legal challenge to the law?

            •  Nobodys challenged it so far (2+ / 0-)
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              but then nobody challenged all the surveillance and data mining that's being done with every bit of our communication or the violation of free speech that caging protesters in "free speech zones" among other losses of our rights..  

              It seems that the only time people get their undies in a wad these days is over the 2nd Amendment regardless of how important the other ones are.

              There already is class warfare in America. Unfortunately, the rich are winning.

              by Puddytat on Mon Jan 28, 2013 at 03:16:54 PM PST

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              •  There have been some attempts (1+ / 0-)
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                but then nobody challenged all the surveillance and data mining that's being done with every bit of our communication
                Some people have tried. They haven't even gotten past 'standing', though, except for a couple of memorable cases that were quashed on national security grounds.

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