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  •  There Not "Going To The Back Of The Line" (0+ / 0-)

    Because the 'back of the line' isn't in the U.S., it's in the illegal immigrant's country of origin.

    This whole notion that illegal immigrants are going to 'the back of the line' is a bunch of horse shit.

    As to learning English, who's going to pay for this, and what if they can't learn English what are you going to do, deport them?

    Lastly, as to 'paying back taxes'. Exactly how do you propose we force an illegal immigrant who has been using a fake or stolen Social Security number to 'pay back taxes'. How do you propose proving how much they owe in taxes to begin with, and for that matter how do you propose even proving their identity?

    Again, the whole 'Learn English, pay back taxes, go to the back of the line' is nothing but a pile of steaming horse shit.

    I won't be coming home tonight, my generation will put it right - Genesis 9:3

    by superscalar on Tue Jan 29, 2013 at 05:03:31 PM PST

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    •  So what do we do, superscalar? (0+ / 0-)

      I'm open to your proposal, if you have one. Otherwise, you're the one who's full of shit.

      •  Just So I Understand Exactly What You're Saying (0+ / 0-)

        This is Senator Charles Schumer on Meet the Press 11/11/12 from this

        Senator Charles Schumer Meet The Press 11/11/12

        David Gregory:

        Let me turn to lessons from this election and where we go beyond this negotiation over the fiscal matters, Senator Schumer, immigration, are we going to get comprehensive immigration reform it sounds like, if you listen to the House Speaker, they have a change of heart, they want a comprehensive plan.

        Senator Charles Schumer:

        Yeah, I think so, Senator Graham and I have, uuuh, talked, and we are resuming, uuuh, the talks that were broken off two years ago. We have put together a comprehensive detailed, uuuh, blueprint on immigration reform it had the real potential for bipartisan support based on the theory that most Americans are for legal immigration but very much against illegal immigration.

        Our plan, just to be quick does four things, first of all

        1.) Close the border, make sure that's shut

        Second, make sure that there is a

        2.) Non-forgeable document so that employers so that employers can tell who is legal and who is illegal and once they, uuuh, hire somebody illegally throw the book at 'em.

        Third, on, on, legal immigrate…, that'll stop illegal immigration in its tracks. Third, on legal immigration

        3.) Let in the people we need, whether they be engineers, uuuh, from our universities, foreign, or people to pick the crops

        And forth

        4.) A path to citizenship, that's fair [ed: important to remember here that the current family based system is 'unfair' ], which says you have to learn english, you have to go to the back of the line, you gotta' have a job, and, you can't, uuuh, commit crimes.

        Graham and I are talking to our colleagues about this, right now, and I think we have a darn good chance using this blueprint to get something done this year. The Republican Party has learned, that being anti-illegal imm … anti-immigrant, uuuh, doesn't work politically and they know it.

        You are associating yourself with Senator Schumer, Senator Graham, the gang of six, etc. and their plan (which is for all intents and purposes the President's plan). You believe this is a good plan, and if I say I don't have a better plan, in fact if I were to state that I don't believe the U.S. family immigration system is fundamentally 'broken', like all the 'serious people' do, I'm 'full of shit'.

        Is that your contention?

        I won't be coming home tonight, my generation will put it right - Genesis 9:3

        by superscalar on Tue Jan 29, 2013 at 08:58:15 PM PST

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