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  •  When was it not? (3+ / 0-)
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    janislav, flowerfarmer, denig

    We are part of the natural environment after all. As are cats. Were I you, I'd lay low on the claims that others are scientifically ignorant.

    •  he might have been laying it on strong but there (1+ / 0-)
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      is no wild variety of the domestic cat.

      How big is your personal carbon footprint?

      by ban nock on Tue Jan 29, 2013 at 07:49:06 PM PST

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      •  There is no remaining wild variety (0+ / 0-)

        of the species Homo sapiens sapiens, or even our genus Homo either. So what? We co-evolved with cats and neither of us are what we once were. But we continue to be part of the natural environment. If we are to control their population numbers, we should start with controlling ours. Our numbers are the root of our largest problems.

        •  are we genetically different from humans of (0+ / 0-)

          ten thousand years ago? Aren't there human populations existing as hunter gatherers?

          How big is your personal carbon footprint?

          by ban nock on Tue Jan 29, 2013 at 08:22:10 PM PST

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          •  Yes, we are somewhat different genetically, (2+ / 0-)
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            and likely extremely different with regard to gene expression, in fact some studies seem to indicate that we are evolving at an accelerated rate. To my knowledge, all H-Gs have now been exposed to modern technologies. Cats are still hunting naturally anyway; probably less changed than us, actually. My point is, we are the primary problem.

      •  Felis sylvestris? Felis libyca? (1+ / 0-)
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        The domestic cat is believed to be derived from the North African wildcat, which may be a subspecies of the Eurasian wildcat. These cats are not extinct. It is argued by some biologists that the wild and domestic animals are still one species. I think the behavioral differences are enough to separate them, but I'm not a biologist.

        Cogito, ergo Democrata.

        by Ahianne on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 06:27:53 AM PST

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