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    those 100-year storms,

    seem to be happening every other year lately.

    but that's the vernacular of the traditional media,

    what's a person to do?

    Here's how the game is really Rigged.

    by jamess on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 05:35:06 AM PST

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    •  I don't recall "storm of the century" references (3+ / 0-)
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      in the MSM. Thank god for small favors.

      If any of the talking heads were to be so foolish as to say that, what organization (or individual) is ready to step up and call them out on that? and can do it with credibility?

      I know - and many others here who are much more informed than I - that climate science has predicted exactly this kind of storm happening with greater frequency and intensity. Far from being a storm of the century, Sandy was just foreshadowing the shape of things to come if we humans continue spewing GHG the way we are.

      Reforms come from below. No man with four aces howls for a new deal.
      Keystone XL will raise gas prices!

      by Turbonerd on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 08:54:27 AM PST

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    •  100-year storm (2+ / 0-)
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      The phrase 100-year storm isn’t vernacular, it has a quantitative meaning in engineering. 100-year storm indicates a storm of a given intensity has a 1% probability of happening in any given year. Similarly, a 500-year storm has a 0.2% chance of happening in any given year. There are all sorts of standards, mostly related to civil engineering, related to 1, 5, 10, 20-year, etc. events.

      The problem lies in the fact that the probabilities are based on long-term climate data. If one thinks that historical trends are being altered by climate change, then some smart people will need to recalculate the probabilities of various storm events. If the 100-year storm of the past is the, for example, 20-year storm of the future that is going to change a lot of things – where we draw boundaries of flood plains, how we design sewer systems, on and on.

      Likewise, if we are headed down this road it will change how buildings are built. Florida has extensive laws requiring hurricane-resistant construction. Imagine applying that to the entire Gulf Coast and Eastern Seaboard.  

      Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx

      by Joe Bob on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 12:07:56 PM PST

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    •  Cuomo wants the state to buy land if the (1+ / 0-)
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      owners are willing to move. He's concerned (rightly, in my opinion) that the areas right on the coast will have to be rebuilt multiple times and thinks it would be better for the residents and cheaper for the government to turn coastal areas into parks.

      There's much more on this in "The retreat away from the US coastline is beginning," which is currently on the rec list.

      I'm a Democrat - I believe that government has a positive role to play in the lives of ordinary people.

      by 1BQ on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 02:51:21 PM PST

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