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  •  Comedy precisely spearing the old, old complaint (4+ / 0-)
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    zenbassoon, Gemina13, Deep Texan, MaikeH

    This is what my grandparents had to hear when they came over from Italy. And what my great-grandparents heard when they came over from Germany. And so on, and so forth.

    It's really unbecoming to bring this up again. Dare I say it's Limbaugh-esque.

    "Teach a man to fish, he can feed himself for a life. Don’t feed fish." - Future President Paul Ryan

    by Fordmandalay on Tue Jan 29, 2013 at 09:30:27 PM PST

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    •  The Difference Being (3+ / 0-)
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      zenbassoon, IT Professional, Sparhawk

      That when your grandparents came over from Italy there were probably no taxes at all to speak of, there was no Social Security, no Medicare, no Medicaid, there was no mandatory federal education requirements, no WIC, no school breakfast programs, no school lunch programs, etc.

      Also, there's this. The 'Great Irish Migration' took place over the course of about fifty years and involved about five million immigrants. Those immigrants entered a country where again, it was pretty much every man/woman for themselves, and the country was still expanding westward.

      Compare this to the emptying out of entire villages in Mexico over the the course of about twenty years (about 6.8 million illegal immigrants being from Mexico) into a modern welfare state which is creating primarily low-wage low-skilled jobs.

      Saying, in effect, that 'all immigration is equal' is like saying that one can apply the same fiscal and economic approaches today as was applied in the 1930's with some certainty of the same outcome.

      But, you know what, in the end, I want all the folks chirping about 'comprehensive immigration reform' to get everything they want and more.

      The 1986 IRCA was designed to grant amnesty to about 750,000. In the end it granted amnesty to about 3.2 million. Ten percent of all individuals born in Mexico now live in the U.S. Heck, I'm hoping that by the time 'comprehensive immigration reform' is done that number is above twenty percent. Then the Democratic Party won't be able to say they didn't get exactly what they asked for.

      I won't be coming home tonight, my generation will put it right - Genesis 9:3

      by superscalar on Tue Jan 29, 2013 at 09:47:33 PM PST

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