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  •  Foreign students are already in the (2+ / 0-)
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    majority in technical fields. They tend to be excellent students, very intelligent and highly motivated. US universities actually enroll the cream of many other countries.

    It is totally foolish to educate them and then kick them out. They should be given green cards so they can stay here and contribute their talents to the US if they choose.

    •  Any proof of this? (0+ / 0-)

      All evidence from government sponsored studies show that there are more STEM college graduates than the job market can absorb.

      What evidence do you have that the majority of STEM bachelor's degrees are foreign students?

      There is a very small job market for advanced degrees in STEM fields.  Why would American students enroll in Masters or PhD STEM programs when very few jobs require Master's or PhDs?

      It is wrong to poach educated citizens from developing countries.  These countries need the U.S. educated citizens to build up the third world.

      •  I'm talking about advanced degrees - (0+ / 0-)

        masters and PhD - which are required for most high-tech jobs. As for bachelors, I don't know.

        Yes, it is true that universities produce more graduates - at all levels - than there are jobs to be filled in this country.

        I'm not arguing that more degrees should be handed out. But when we have educated someone, it is foolish to kick them out and prevent them from contributing their skills and work ethic to our economy, forcing them to instead go home to strengthen lower-cost, lower-wage, environmentally unregulated foreign competitors.

        I don't think most US universities "poach" students from developing countries. They come here because they want to. It is very competitive and only the best can make it. If they meet the qualifications, they should be free to study wherever they want and can afford to go. After they have jumped through all of our hoops to come here and complete their education and become qualified to hold jobs here, it is incredibly rude as well as counterproductive to tell them they aren't good enough to stay.

        Many foreign workers, even permanent residents and naturalized citizens, do choose to return to help build up their native countries. When they go, let them go as  friends, and don't feel they have been given the bum's rush as undesirables. The US needs more friends around the world.

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