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    We're shifting the tax burden completely to the workers - essentially asking them to pay for the privilege of working.
    The tax burden is always on the corporation. It doesn't matter whether the taxes are income, corporate, sales, property, or something else. All dollars in your local community originate with the corporation(s), and those taxes in whatever form contribute to the corporation's cost of doing business in the area.
    And it's not like these are even high paying jobs any more, because hey someone else is always willing to do it cheaper.
    Such is the world we live in. Localities have to cope as best they can.

    (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
    Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

    by Sparhawk on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 01:13:20 PM PST

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    •  No. (0+ / 0-)

      Many jobs are government jobs and not dependent on Corporations.  The tax burden is never on the Corporation.  If a Corporation does not include its tax burden in its pricing it will not be in business very long.  Customers pay taxes.

      •  All government jobs... (0+ / 0-)

        ...are dependent on corporations on one level or another, from your local parking clerk to President Obama himself. Corporations pay all the freight for all of these people.

        If your point is 'government jobs' like the post office, they are also supported by corporations, just ones that are further away.

        (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
        Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

        by Sparhawk on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 05:44:09 AM PST

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        •  No. (0+ / 0-)

          They bill us for the freight.  Corporations do some things that are needed but government does most of what is needed and is difficult or immoral to make a profit off of.  Like building roads, providing health care or running prisons.

          Corporations are a tool we created; as is government.  You use different tools for different jobs.  Don't use a hammer when you need a screwdriver.

        •  Corporations answer to stockholders (0+ / 0-)

          who never live in the local community. The corporations are run for the benefit of absentee 'landlords' who could care less about and provide no support, in taxes or otherwise, for the local community.

          Less "WAAAAH!", more progress.

          by IndyGlenn on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 09:22:38 AM PST

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          •  Maybe so (0+ / 0-)

            However, all income to the community in all forms is dependent on them, 'absentee' or otherwise.

            (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
            Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

            by Sparhawk on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 09:34:32 AM PST

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            •  not corporations, businesses (0+ / 0-)

              A corporation is just one form of business entity, and an arguably poor one. Corporations serve to emphasize and exaggerate every negative characteristic of capitalism. Greed, exploitation, externalizing costs, and so on. They are in many ways the enemy of the community and local citizen.

              If you want to argue in favor of capitalism, I would not recommend arguing in favor of corporations. They are the worst example of the system, not the best.

              Less "WAAAAH!", more progress.

              by IndyGlenn on Sat Feb 02, 2013 at 08:58:37 AM PST

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