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  •  but.. (0+ / 0-)

    they're working for cash, off the books, in short ILLEGALLY. Now, grant them citizenship, and they are entitled to rights, and benefits as citizens. Corporations will either have to pay them minimum wage (which is why they brought them here in the first place), or find other workers to smuggle in to exploit.
    Liberals disapoint me here. They're thinking like republicans. This is chess, not checkers. And in no way is it to the benefit of the US working class citizens to grant 11 million illegals citizenship.

    •  Many of them are doing jobs... (1+ / 0-)
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      ...that many people would be quite unwilling to do.

      The Grand Bargain must be stopped at all costs to protect the 99%.

      by cybrestrike on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 09:36:30 AM PST

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      •  there it is (3+ / 0-)
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        So, the solution is to manipulate our free market system so I can buy cheap lettuce? No, pay a fair wage to a US citizen to do these jobs. If I have to pay more for produce at the market, so be it. That's the way the system works.
        Also, I know a roofer that employs illegals, legitimate roofing contractors can not compete with him. That's just not fair.

    •  Union membership will mushroom (2+ / 0-)
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      I worked for years, side by side, with folks here illegally, in the restaurant business. In fact I was pretty much immersed in the Mexican culture.
      The folks I worked with were very much aware of the value of unions. But because they were here illegally they couldn't join.
      Sure enough you're seeing a growth in unions in California among the Hispanic demographic.
      Seems to me the regrowth of unions will be good for everybody and we can look to the newly legal folks for that new union membership.

      •  Well, thats one bright spot. (1+ / 0-)
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        •  I don't see it as dire. (0+ / 0-)

          I think their kids will go to school, start businesses, generate money to greater society and well over 11 million new jobs will be created.  We are moving into a new world involving changes on many levels and job production will be vast.  They will contribute greatly, as many already have, so I'm not worried.

          "When you think about the money spent/on defense by the government/& the weapons of destruction we've built/we're so sure that we need/then you think of the millions that money could feed/How long?" J Browne

          by rainmanjr on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 12:18:02 PM PST

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