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  •  I would not be so sure. (13+ / 0-)

    Towns and cities below 5,000 people do not report their homicide rates.  There are months when the rural counties surrounding Lafayette sound positively scary.  

    In 2012, White County, Indiana had at least two homicides in a population of 25,000 -- that is 8 per 100,000, or 60% above the US average.  Especially stay clear of Monticello, the town where one of the murders took place.  They run roughly one homicide every other year, for a rate of 10 per 100,000 or twice the national average.  

    The worst memory I have is a man from Wheatfield suggesting that I move my mother out of her diverse suburb for fear of crime.  That year Wheatfield had 2 homicides out of a population of 900, for a rate of 222 per 100,000.  For large cities, 60 per 100,000 qualifies you for the "Murder Capital" title.  (Her town was a haven of domestic abuse, to be sure, but she lived alone, which put paid to that risk.)

    "Politics should be the part-time profession of every citizen who would protect the rights and privileges of free people and who would preserve what is good and fruitful in our national heritage." -- Lucille Ball

    by Yamaneko2 on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 10:09:13 AM PST

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    •  I live in a rural area (3+ / 0-)
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      Utah's Violent death rate. Notice the trend lines. 32 homicides out of near 3 million people. Utah does have a high suicide rate, but we have an average of 10.4 gun deaths total out of 100k.

      "The scientific nature of the ordinary man is to go on out and do the best you can." John Prine

      by high uintas on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 10:52:03 AM PST

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      •  Utah's homicide rate is very low. (3+ / 0-)
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        At 32 homicides per 3 million (roughly 1.07 per 100,000) Utah is in a league with places like Spain and Great Britain.  Hopefully the 32 per 3 million is not an outlier (as sometimes happens), but even if it is a rate of 2 per 100,000 is quite good.

        So congratulations to Utah.  Maybe the Utah/Mormon brand of right-wing thought is more pacific than the Indiana/Fundangelical brand.  

        "Politics should be the part-time profession of every citizen who would protect the rights and privileges of free people and who would preserve what is good and fruitful in our national heritage." -- Lucille Ball

        by Yamaneko2 on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 12:23:41 PM PST

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        •  I have no idea (2+ / 0-)
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          Maybe is is the more homogenized population, religion, long term culture. We have the most liberal gun laws in the nation, concealed and open carry. I have to admit it colors the way I look at guns because they are a daily part of life here.

          "The scientific nature of the ordinary man is to go on out and do the best you can." John Prine

          by high uintas on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 01:18:43 PM PST

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          •  And we're usually sober when we use our guns (1+ / 0-)
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            I'm not too sure about the homogenized population part.

            I used to live in Rose Park and West Valley; so maybe I perceive Utah as being more diverse than it really is.

            Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think that our crime rate has gone up as Utah has become more diverse?

            •  The link given... (1+ / 0-)
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              The link given shows that Utah enjoyed a steep drop in homicides in 2012 in a pattern of stable homicide rates.

              "Politics should be the part-time profession of every citizen who would protect the rights and privileges of free people and who would preserve what is good and fruitful in our national heritage." -- Lucille Ball

              by Yamaneko2 on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 10:28:15 PM PST

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            •  SLC is much more diverse (0+ / 0-)

              than the rest of the state, but still if you think about religion and culture more than race we are one of the more homogenized states in the country.

              Still, the bulk of the state's population is in the Wasatch Ft. mostly metro area, so even the city vs rural thing is kind of turned on it's head.

              Diversity in Utah on racial lines has been all good, IMO. I don't see it as a factor in crime, but have no stats to show other than that link I found and posted.

              "The scientific nature of the ordinary man is to go on out and do the best you can." John Prine

              by high uintas on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 08:36:36 AM PST

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