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  •  What a waste to appoint somebody... (8+ / 0-)

    who has no future political aspirations.  So Mr. Cowan plans to use his life long title for private sector "benefits".

    "The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self awareness" -Annie Savoy (Bull Durham)

    by Jacoby Jonze on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 01:15:29 PM PST

    •  Whatever I might have thought of Patrick before (7+ / 0-)

      I think even less of him now. He's a self-interested hack who could care about the party's interests who just signaled what he intends to do post-politics--get a fat salary job in the private sector. Another Rendell, basically.

      "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

      by kovie on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 01:32:59 PM PST

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      •  he's my governor and I disagree (2+ / 0-)
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        especially the self interested part

        •  He picked a crony (2+ / 0-)

          Not the best person for the job. That says all to me. This is like Jackson picking Van Buren, only without the political skills at this level.

          "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

          by kovie on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 05:14:27 PM PST

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          •  we aren't necessarily in the best position (0+ / 0-)

            with all the information to decide who is the best person for the job. That's what I think, and it's fine we disagree

            It might look like he picked his friend "crony". But there might be more to it. I don't feel we have enough info to judge yet.

            •  We never have enough info to decide on (0+ / 0-)

              I just don't see what the advantage is to MA or the party is by picking him over Frank. Do MA election laws prohibit picking someone who will run in the special election, or the person picked from running in them?

              "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

              by kovie on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 06:40:27 PM PST

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              •  Law does not prohibit it (0+ / 0-)

                But Patrick made clear he didn't want to appoint someone who would run. He did the same in 2009. His take is that you can't get up to speed and represent the Commonwealth effectively in DC while you're running in a special election.

                Fair enough. But Frank and others made clear they would not run if appointed to the interim position. Nothing legal to prevent going back on that, but Frank was pretty clear he would not run and only wanted to do it to influence the budget stuff this year.

                Republicans...think the American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire the Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it. Harry S. Truman

                by fenway49 on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 07:38:45 PM PST

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                •  Again, I don't see what value Cowan brings (1+ / 0-)
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                  to Dems or MA, as opposed to Frank or another Dem with lots of congressional experience and clout. It was a safe but dumb appointment IMO.

                  "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

                  by kovie on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 08:00:16 PM PST

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                  •  Right, I agree with you (1+ / 0-)
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                    I am seeing people defend the pick because Cowan won't be running in the special. My point is that Frank also pledged not to run in the special, and indeed endorsed Markey to prove the point. At which point Markey, like Warren, said Frank would be a great interim senator.

                    I was just responding to the question about what the law requires. And not running in the special is a Deval Patrick condition, not a Massachusetts law condition.

                    Republicans...think the American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire the Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it. Harry S. Truman

                    by fenway49 on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 08:04:21 PM PST

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                    •  This was a dick move by Patrick as I see it (0+ / 0-)

                      If Warren and Markey preferred Frank, given who Frank is, he should have picked Frank. I don't know why Patrick did this, but it wasn't to help the party, country or MA. Perhaps there's some inside baseball stuff here we don't know about (yet). Perhaps someone high up hates Frank, like Reid or Obama or Lew.

                      "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

                      by kovie on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 08:08:03 PM PST

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      •  He has his savings from the private sector, surely (0+ / 0-)

        See the bio details.  This thread is really rich in information for mass voters who want to prepare to defeat Lynch. If you can help us out with what you know, that would great.

        "Are you bluish? You don't look bluish," attributed to poet Roger Joseph McGough, for the Beatles' Yellow Submarine (1968).

        by BlueStateRedhead on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 04:32:36 PM PST

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        •  I'm less interested in defeating anyone (1+ / 0-)
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          than in getting a progressive Dem elected to this seat, and having someone who actually knows their way around congress in this seat in the interim. I don't see how this pick helps in either respect.

          "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

          by kovie on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 05:13:30 PM PST

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          •  Cowan is a done deal (0+ / 0-)

            He's in. But if you care about a progressive Dem winning the special, you need to care about defeating Steve Lynch. He is no progressive.

            Republicans...think the American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire the Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it. Harry S. Truman

            by fenway49 on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 07:40:06 PM PST

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            •  I like Markey (0+ / 0-)

              Don't know enough about Lynch. I was just hoping for a non-placeholder who might actually help get a thing or two done in the interim.

              "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

              by kovie on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 08:02:08 PM PST

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              •  Lynch (1+ / 0-)
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                OK on some issues. Tight with some labor (hardhats more than, say, SEIU). But:

                -Anti-choice
                -Voted against Obamacare
                -Pro-Iraq war
                -Hardliner on drug war
                -Big gun rights guy until recently
                -Won his first office in 1994 by siding with South Boston conservatives who cancelled the St. Patrick's Day parade rather than allow a gay group to march as required by state law. He ran in a primary against an incumbent from the right, using that issue as a wedge. He also became a neighborhood legend in 1994 for defending, pro bono, a bunch of white thugs who were charged with hate crimes for continued harassment of a Latino guy in their project, because he thought they were getting a raw deal.

                In 2001 he won a primary to replace the late Rep. Joe Moakley by running as most conservative in the field.

                Lynch now says he's OK with same-sex marriage but he voted consistently for anti-gay bills in the state legislature. Even now, he's the only member of the Mass. delegation who won't sign a brief against DOMA. He's the classic conservadem, especially on social issues.

                Republicans...think the American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire the Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it. Harry S. Truman

                by fenway49 on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 08:14:39 PM PST

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                •  Need I guess where he stood on bussing (0+ / 0-)

                  in the 70's and 80's?

                  "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

                  by kovie on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 08:25:24 PM PST

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                  •  He was only 19 (0+ / 0-)

                    when the decision came down. His family goes way back in South Boston, as did mine before getting out, and he went to Southie High, graduating the year before the integration order. I don't know anything about his views on that, but  but he's made his career with that crowd.  

                    He is a hard, hard worker. He became an ironworker, was president of his union in his late 20s, and put himself through two graduate degrees on the side. Votes fine on plenty of issues, but still comes from the wrong side of the Democratic fence for me.

                    Republicans...think the American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire the Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it. Harry S. Truman

                    by fenway49 on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 06:02:09 AM PST

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                    •  I recall the issue being huge in Boston (1+ / 0-)
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                      for years after the ruling, and based on what you've told me about Lynch, it seemed likely that his core constituency was very anti-busing.

                      "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

                      by kovie on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 06:22:16 AM PST

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                      •  Yeah (1+ / 0-)
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                        I'd say so. I have no idea of his personal views, though anyone can speculate. It's undeniable he made his career pretty much pandering to that crowd, though not on that issue since he didn't run for anything until 20 years after the decision.

                        Republicans...think the American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire the Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it. Harry S. Truman

                        by fenway49 on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 07:07:41 AM PST

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    •  he has no immediate aspirations. (1+ / 0-)
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      What else would he say today?

    •  Cowan was a leading Boston lawyer already (0+ / 0-)

      William “Mo” Cowan, L’94

      Mo Cowan is a former member of the litigation section at the Boston-based law firm Mintz Levin Cohn Ferris Glosky & Popeo PC. He has been named a “Top 5% Massachusetts litigator” by Law and Politics magazine and a “40 Under 40” business leader by Boston Business Journal. He is the former president of the Massachusetts Black Lawyers Association and a current member of the Northeastern University Corporation.
      His coop work in law school was with the North Carolina Prison Legal Services in Raleigh, North Carolina.

      Perhaps he is not so selfinterested after all?

      Mo Cowan bio

      "Are you bluish? You don't look bluish," attributed to poet Roger Joseph McGough, for the Beatles' Yellow Submarine (1968).

      by BlueStateRedhead on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 04:38:59 PM PST

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