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  •  Note the use (1+ / 0-)
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    of interesting scholars as opposed to say, good scholars.(names would also be useful)

    As for this:

    their legality isn't as clearcut as the most vociferous detractors would have us believe.
    That is just about as weak a statement as it is possible to make without declaring neutrality.

    Your comment's only purpose is to neutralize any attack on Obama without actually saying anything.

    •  Well unfortunately (5+ / 0-)

      one of the very best "liberal" legal scholars in the country, Harold Koh, has given them program his blessing, and he's not alone. Their argument hinges on a loose interpretation of the already loose 2001 AUMF, but passage of a U.S. law doesn't exempt the United States from having to follow international law, and it's not following IL in various ways. Particularly problematic are signature strikes, which account for most strikes; those are when the identities of the targets aren't known.

      •  Hellers' analysis is one that I think would (1+ / 0-)
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        be great to have explored in a far reaching venue.  Distinctions between IHL, IHRL, and the fine-grained rules of IL are all neat topics that I think a lot of people would find interesting.  

        •  Might have to go the legal blogs for that (4+ / 0-)

          One of the political problems for opponents (like me) is that there's a two-tiered argument that tends to get muddled.

          We contest the claim that the U.S. is an armed conflict in places like Yemen, which would mean that international human rights law, not international humanitarian law (or the law of armed conflict) applies, but we also say that even if the U.S. is in an armed conflict with Yemen, the U.S. is violating the law in various ways.

          •  This is an interesting comment (0+ / 0-)

            I'd like to know more about the differences between those laws, but without having to read large volumes of information.  Do you have any recommendations for sources on that subject?


            "Justice is a commodity"

            by joanneleon on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 04:39:56 PM PST

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    •  Good scholars. Kevin Jon Heller and (1+ / 0-)
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      Benjamin Wittes come to mind immediately.  

      I'm not trying to neutralize anything; I just think this is an interesting topic and I don't think the people that Moyers has selected will make for an interesting show.  It'll make for a didactic one, for sure, and if that's what he wanted to do, that's his show and he's free to do so.  But, again, I think it's a bit of a missed opportunity.

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