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  •  What a woman allows to be done to her body or (2+ / 0-)

    who or what she allows to us it is her choice. But whatever choice she makes does not kill a lovely girl sheltering in a park or 20  6 year olds. The only apt part of the analogy is if someone is attempting to assault another by using or harming thier body against thier will then they have a right to self defend...

    Otherwise a gun affects any whom the owner chooses to target and affects many as collateral damage or a statement.

    The analogy is crap.

    Fear is the Mind Killer...

    by boophus on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 04:39:56 PM PST

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    •  No choise, I and hundred of millions of innocent (1+ / 0-)
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      Americans have killed anybody.

      Don't try to infringe on the liberties of innocent Americans for the acts of a murderer.

      Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

      by FrankRose on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 06:33:31 PM PST

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      •  There are many more responsible drivers that (1+ / 0-)
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        have never killed anyone driving drunk and yet we subject ourselves to blood alcohol limits, road blocks with check points and other limits that have nothing to do with us.  Yes the drunk drivers are a minority but we need everyone subject to the same rules - same thing goes for firearms, you want to own/operate a deadly object then everyone should live with the inconvenience of regulations in order to ameliorate the senseless carnage.

        The trend in people getting shot was dropping until the AWB expired (it bottomed out at about 90k people getting shot every year), but now it has risen to about 110k and the trend line is pretty clear - the number of shootings is rising at about 3,300 per year.  Data from Violence Policy Center - PDF.

        Then they came for me - and by that time there was nobody left to speak up.

        by DefendOurConstitution on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 07:35:10 PM PST

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    •  The only product that injures over 100k people (1+ / 0-)
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      every year (with about 32k dying) and gets away with it.  There are no effective firearm regulations on a national level and the NRA (plus the gun cultists they created) are just fine with that.  Can you imagine how quickly our Government would regulate any product that injures.maims/kills more than 5k-10k people?

      The only product that comes even close is the automobile, and we know that our Government did create a lot of regulations that are indeed saving lives (in spite of having more than twice as many cars and nearly twice as many drivers as 40 years ago, automobile fatalities have been cut nearly in half).  As a matter of fact, gun fatalities are expected to surpass automobile deaths in the next couple of years.  And yet any call for even a fraction of the regulations that apply to automobiles is met with screams of "INFRINGEMENT, GERMANY, SLIPPERY SLOPE, CONFISCATION," and other facile whines from the gun fetishists.

      I would be very happy if firearms were regulated like cars.  That makes the most sense.

      Then they came for me - and by that time there was nobody left to speak up.

      by DefendOurConstitution on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 07:21:43 PM PST

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      •  Absolutely. Besides as I was talking to my (1+ / 0-)
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        sweet. A shot gun is a good defense... THat dipshit woman talking about 5 men breaking in and needing an automatic is totally insane. She might take out the men but she has a good chance of taking out a child when the bullets go through walls.

        There is a small place for guns in our society and thier value should be weighed against the potential to harm unarmed others who are not partaking in your fetish. Other countries manage to control guns, why can't we?

        I see it as merely  a gut response of some who are not really interested in guns for hunting (geesh hit a pheasant with some of these guns and poof it is feather dust)or for basic home safety  but rather as a crutch for egos that need to know if others make them unhappy or displease them or they are just flat out burning up with rage they can take some people out to show that they are powerful. Powerful cowards usually because they pick targets who are unsuspecting and unarmed. But I think it makes them feel manly in some sick definition of the term.

        But to equate the right to abortion (the control of the very use of your own body) to gun regulation is wrong because your body is what you need to exist but a gun is not necessary to exist. We outlawed slavery in the 1800s where others had the claim to use , abuse or kill another human being for thier interests. I see a resurgence in the mentality that sees nothing wrong with slavery in the attacks on labor, for profit prisons and all the laws trying to take away a womans right to control her own bodies use and redefine misuse....Mankind survived for a lot longer then there have been guns.

        Personal freedom means you determine what is best for you and when your hungers or urges come into conflict with the right of others to feel safe in your vicinity they have a right to regulate that potential for harm. Not to use anothers body against thier will.  Guns are in the public arena because they can impact large numbers.

        Fear is the Mind Killer...

        by boophus on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 08:48:34 PM PST

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