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  •  I have to tell you that I went (3+ / 0-)
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    AZ Sphinx Moth, Gjetost, bontemps2012

    to NY for Thanksgiving and was sickened by the games I saw by 9 and 11 year old nephews playing.
    They were body parts being blown off, blood everywhere.
    This cannot be healthy for children. I refused to buy that stuff for my son.

    Maya Angelou: "Without courage, we cannot practice any other virtue with consistency. We can't be kind, true, merciful, generous, or honest."

    by JoanMar on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 06:54:14 PM PST

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    •  Then you're a good parent. (2+ / 0-)
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      If you're paying attention the ESRB and decide those games aren't any good for your kids, then good for you! That's your choice.

       I doubt your nephews will become hardened criminals because they play video games like that though. If their parents talk to kids, teach them the difference between fanasy and reality then I'm sure everything will be okay.

    •  And you shouldn't, those games are made for (3+ / 0-)
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      adults! Children shouldn't be playing them any more than they should be going to R rated movies.

      •  Meanwhile you can go to jail (0+ / 0-)

        if your kid finds the xvideos web site....

        "Have you left no sense of decency, sir, at long last?" Army Attorney to Sen. McCarthy, 1954. "We have done nothing to be ashamed of. We have nothing to apologize for." NRA 12/14/2012.

        by bontemps2012 on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 06:37:30 AM PST

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    •  Don't read any superhero comics, then (2+ / 0-)
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      They've got all of that and worse. OTOH they're explicitly aiming for the late teen-young adult action flick market - the same ones who go to ultraviolent movies where the "plot" consists of people being blown away and things being blown up.

      They're not for kids any longer, or you, or me. Another entertainment form captured by a tiny niche demographic. Sigh.

      (Your nephews will probably grow out of the videogame phase and be none the worse for it. Most kids do OK.)

      If it's
      Not your body,
      Then it's
      Not your choice
      And it's
      None of your damn business!

      by TheOtherMaven on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 08:51:51 PM PST

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      •  How could anyone know ??? (0+ / 0-)

        I was out of the military by a couple decades, not a combat guy anyway, then a helicopter doing a surveillance gig at 2 AM half woke me up into a waking dream.

        I was trying to load a shotgun when I realized what I was doing. Huge shock. i had walked from the bedroom to the front closet, opened a wood box, assembled the shotgun, and then Thank God picked a box of rifle ammo that was too long to fit.

        Did all that in the dark.

        Gun safe was the next purchase. And tape on the guns, just to be sure I didn't get armed while unconscious.

        Video game memories could kick in the same way. Even decades later.

        There is no such thing as a free lunch. (= "karma.") You want to fantasize killing people, expect that to bite you in the xss.

        "Have you left no sense of decency, sir, at long last?" Army Attorney to Sen. McCarthy, 1954. "We have done nothing to be ashamed of. We have nothing to apologize for." NRA 12/14/2012.

        by bontemps2012 on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 06:48:57 AM PST

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        •  Err ... (2+ / 0-)
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          No offense to what was surely a frightening experience for you, but video games don't create trauma, and they surely don't teach you how to load a for-real shotgun in the dark.  And if you want to argue that something so mild as a mere non-traumatic memory can cause dangerous behavior in someone caught in a sleepwalking type state, then it'd probably be best to have something resembling evidence to back it up.  To my knowledge, most people are doing things out of their daily lives when such dangers occur: getting in the car and trying to drive while asleep; hanging around in the kitchen with a butcher knife chopping non-existent vegetables; thinking they're on a hunting trip with their buddies and grabbing the gun; and so on.  Your hypothetical former video-gamer would be more likely to be sitting in the living room holding a twenty-years-out-of-date controller and yelling at the television.  That's what playing a violent video game is, nothing to do with handling a real gun.

          I'd also like to point out that if said former gamer doesn't even own a gun ... well.

          •  I've seen "Call of Duty." (0+ / 0-)

            The virtual world of that game is as close to combat as they can get it.

            Not sure about this:

            "And if you want to argue that something so mild as a mere non-traumatic memory can cause dangerous behavior in someone caught in a sleepwalking type state, then it'd probably be best to have something resembling evidence to back it up."

            "Waking nightmare" came up in counseling on-meds schizophrenics. All this kind of thing mixes in, makes life difficult for them.

            I can't imagine what "Call of Duty" would do to them. I'm not doing counseling. Don't have the temperament to deal with it.

            What hit me from the helicopter stimulus looks to be a commonplace experience with schiz people, even on meds. Not the shotgun, the non-rational break.

            There but for the Grace of God....

            Not owning a gun -- excellent !!

            "Have you left no sense of decency, sir, at long last?" Army Attorney to Sen. McCarthy, 1954. "We have done nothing to be ashamed of. We have nothing to apologize for." NRA 12/14/2012.

            by bontemps2012 on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 01:44:47 PM PST

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      •  They're not all like that. (0+ / 0-)

        Granted Marvel and DC have started making more mature content in their comics, but just like video games there's a rating system.

         If parents and businesses are too fucking stupid to pay attention to those ratings, then the fault lies with bad parenting and poor salesmanship.

         If they disregard them because they actually talk with their kids and educate them, then everything will be okay like you said.

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