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  •  USFS personnel are put in danger (10+ / 0-)

    in both of these scenarios. You know, I like pot but I also love some very cool people working for the US forest service and it is getting pretty scary out there for them between smugglers (very serious drug cartels moving a whole lot of product) and the type of pot farmers you describe but even they are scared now, really scared about what has been going on lately. All parties may at times give a wide berth (from what I've heard) but this shit is not even funny.
    The arsonist, yeah he should definitely pay restitution.

    •  But there is a very easy way to (28+ / 0-)

      remove the dangers of illegal marijuana trafficking.

      Not so much you can do to remove the dangers of arson.

      This better be good. Because it is not going away.

      by DerAmi on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 12:31:25 AM PST

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    •  In the Eel River basin, (3+ / 0-)
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      there's a legal requirement to monitor an aggressive non-native species, the Sacramento pikeminnow. Last year, the groups asked for a waiver because it was too dangerous for the fish biologists to go to their established monitoring points due to illegal marijuana grows on national forest and PG&E lands.

      Fry, don't be a hero! It's not covered by our health plan!

      by elfling on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 02:43:42 PM PST

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      •  diarist wrong on forest grows (2+ / 0-)
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        it is a big big problem treatening whole watersheds with poisons of all sorts, including the threats from the gangs and cartels as well as greedy growers guarding the crops from other criminals.

        None of it is cool or funny or

        acrerage wise, not enough to notice.
        google earth east of Eureka/Arcata. That isn't the world's biggest concentration of tomato growers. Those are clear cuts as well.

        This machine kills Fascists.

        by KenBee on Fri Feb 01, 2013 at 12:00:27 AM PST

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        •  They pull amazing amounts of water out of the Eel (1+ / 0-)
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          River, and are probably taking more than the legal rightsholders. I can pull some references for that if anyone wants.

          In the north coast area, the problem with pot isn't intoxication. It's illegal growers who spill diesel into creeks and clearcut and leave caches and spills of nasty, toxic herbicides, and huge deposits of trash when they're done. All this washes into the river, where the salmon live, or try to live.

          There are people up here lovingly and responsibly growing organic pot for medicinal and other uses on their own land. I don't really have a problem with that; I'd like to see it legalized, so that they can do their work in peace alongside the grape growers. But the people who take and grow on other people's land, including public lands, are uniformly bad news and create big problems.

          Fry, don't be a hero! It's not covered by our health plan!

          by elfling on Fri Feb 01, 2013 at 08:16:17 AM PST

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