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  •  Amazing isn't it (4+ / 0-)

    that some of the states that are likely to be most affected by climate change are the ones that most want to teach denial?  Oklahoma was savaged last summer.  

    Here's the irony about Oklahoma:  A big percentage of the very smartest people I know are from Oklahoma, but they all left the state mostly as soon as they could.  But I keep coming across really brilliant folks from Oklahoma.  It's like they breed really, really smart folks who reach escape velocity and never look back.  Sometimes I wish more of them would stay behind, because OK should be a much better state than it is.

    Anyone else have this experience?  Know any Okies who bust the stereotype?  

    “If the misery of the poor be caused not by the laws of nature, but by our institutions, great is our sin.” Charles Darwin

    by ivorybill on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 08:39:32 AM PST

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    •  I was thinking just the opposite (1+ / 0-)
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      inofar as they could afford themselves the luxury of this specific mode stupidity, since they're at little risk for being flooded over by the rising ocean . .. .

    •  It's also states that make the most $$$ from (2+ / 0-)
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      fossil fuels too.

      Oklahoma, and Colorado--Fracking, drilling for oil, etc.,

    •  I live in Oklahoma (8+ / 0-)

      But I'm originally from Iowa.

      There are many more progressives here than you might think.  However, elections are hopeless, even if we weren't gerrymandered at both the state and federal level.  

      If you are looking for blame, I'd point at (a) the religious hysteria that dominates the local culture, and (b) the media--especially in Oklahoma City, where one one uber-wealthy family right-wing family dominates print and broadcast.

      Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. -- Arthur C. Clarke

      by mathGuyNTulsa on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 10:01:40 AM PST

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      •  "religious hysteria" (2+ / 0-)
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        Nice phrasing.

        Same rationale explain Chuck Grassley? I don't know Kentucky - How does one explain Senator Rand Paul? Texas' Congressman Louis Gohmert?

        It's too much for me to fathom so I'm sticking with stupid voters.

        Why is it that most of the people who are against abortion are people you wouldn't want to #&@$ in the first place? - George Carlin

        by Anthony Page aka SecondComing on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 10:11:11 AM PST

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        •  Grassley (1+ / 0-)

          He's a mystery to me.  He was a state senator when I was a student at Iowa in 1970. He grabbed headlines threatening to punish students for anti-war protests by cutting appropriations to higher education.  I was stunned when he was elected tot he Senate, although I had left the state by then.

          Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. -- Arthur C. Clarke

          by mathGuyNTulsa on Thu Jan 31, 2013 at 04:22:41 PM PST

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    •  Selection bias (0+ / 0-)

      It is just that the smart ones preferentially left. But I have been in OK, and seen the slow rise of environmentalism and sane religion. They will remain in hopeless minority status right up until they are the majority, just as in all other political fights.

      It takes 50 years or more to get a new idea across: votes for women, LGBT rights, elections for Senators, marijuana, Prohibition...the repeal of Prohibition didn't take as long, because the issue started with 100% share of mind. Rights for Blacks are the main exception, at 150 years and counting since emancipation.

      Gerrymandra delenda est

      by Mokurai on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 09:40:36 AM PST

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