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  •  get over yourself (3.20)
    I've been in plenty of union halls and have done plenty of activist work, and the only people worried about language are the PC police.  The folks on the picket lines I've been on talked loud about the "cocksuckers" in management.  They talked loudly about the "pussies" crossing the picket lines.  

    I know out in Berkeley you all are proud of being so PC, but out here in the rest of America we swear, and we have a sense of humor.  

    absolute freedom for one individual undoubtedly limit's the freedom of another.

    by jbou on Wed Jun 01, 2005 at 01:29:40 AM PDT

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    •  I have been in those lines (4.00)
      and involved in union activism and any man using the word pussy would probably get an elbow to the ribs from the woman standing next to him.
      I have know plenty of sexist jerks in all walks of life.  That doesn't excuse it.

      AKA: Sister Holy Straight Razor of Discussion

      by TeresaInPa on Wed Jun 01, 2005 at 04:45:09 AM PDT

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    •  Cool... (4.00)
      I'm all for being real and forthright but, that being said, I'll bet you money that the same folks you valorize and romanticize....

      these mythic striking workers yelling "cocksucker" and "pussy" from the picket line (I've never seen that)...

      represent...um...a negligible percentage of the folks engaging in this kind of trash talk on dKos.  I mean, let's get real.  We're not talking about striking workers on a picket line at risk of losing their jobs here...we're talking about, for the large part, a group of well-to-do, college-educated buffoons swilling soda, eating Doritos and trying to be the Rush Limbaugh of the Left.  We're talking about men who think it's cool to call someone a "cum-wipe" on dKos.  It isn't.

      Further, having seen labor in action myself in New York, in New Mexico, in Minnesota and here in CA...and, uh, having actually been in a union and worked as a janitor...I can also say that your representation of labor is:

      • unrepresentative
      • narrow-minded
      • stereotypical

      I've never heard that kind of  language endorsed as acceptable for being used in public.  And I say that even though when I worked as a janitor I was called "cocksucker" to my face in private and homophobically harassed....repeatedly.

      You want to call me the "PC Police" for saying that folks shouldn't get called a "pussy" or a "cum-wipe" or a  "cocksucker"?  Wow.  I guess I have to tow the line somewhere, huhn?  

      You think your average Union worker would agree with me or you?  And, given my experience, you think I should just stand by and let you get away with accusing me of being the PC Police?  You want to bait me, attack me for living near Berkeley...(...???...????...?????)  You want to make me seem like I'm some "out-of-touch elitist attacking the working class" for calling folks out on posting this kind of sexist crap?  That's pathetic.

      My bottom line.  The immature folks who've used dKos to spout anti-woman, anti-gay epithets as a way of attacking the right are idiots.  Of course we shouldn't be "PC Police"...

      but the juveniles here of all ages who think that politics involves who can "smack talk" the loudest are imbeciles....and, quite frankly, this discussion has nothing to do with the labor movement or the working class in the least.  

      That was my point.

      I used to live like Robinson Crusoe--shipwrecked among eight million people. Then one day I saw a footprint in the sand, and there you were. -B. Wilder

      by kid oakland on Wed Jun 01, 2005 at 10:14:13 AM PDT

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