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  •  Hard Core Survivalists, I'll Give You That (1+ / 0-)
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    The survivalists have been preparing for the apocalyptic race war for decades, but that does not apply to everyone that likes guns. Racism often comes with a mythology as elaborate as any religion.

    There’s always free cheddar in a mousetrap, baby

    by bernardpliers on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 07:44:43 PM PST

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    •  ask any home defense fan who he is "defending" (10+ / 0-)

      himself from---and you'll get all sorts of dogwhistles and codewords, all of which mean "people who aren't white".

      Try it.

      And that is deliberately encouraged.  After all, any honest self-defense advocate KNOWS absolutely that virtually nobody in the US is killed by strangers who break into their home just to kill them.  The people who break into your home want your TV set, not your life; and virtually everyone who is murdered in the US is killed by someone they know. (One exception to that being, ironically, the mass shooter who uses his high-capacity magazines and semi-auto weapons to simply kill as many strangers as possible.)

      Yet the only home-defense scenario you hear from the gun fans is "a horde of (nonwhite) people breaking into my house to kill me oh noes !!!!!!!!"

      It is sheer dishonesty, and they know it. But then, "buy a gun so you can shoot your boyfriend or husband or co-worker or neighbor !!!" doesn't have the same advertising appeal as "shoot the scary black guy who wants to kill your kids !!!" does.

      •  That's A Stretch to Say Home Defense = Racism (1+ / 0-)
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        Actually, it's sort of a wingnut stereotype.

        And in case of real home invasions as well as fictional home invasions (Last House On The Left) the home invaders are white.

        Now, for examples of the black home invaders, see something like The Turner Diaries, which is explicitly white supremacist race war porn.

        Chapter 1
        Today it finally began! ..... We are at war with the System, .....ever since the Gun Raids two years ago....They knocked on my door at five in the morning. I was completely unsuspecting as I got up to see who it was.....I opened the door, and four Negroes came pushing into the apartment....
        -The Turner Diaries

        There’s always free cheddar in a mousetrap, baby

        by bernardpliers on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 08:09:17 PM PST

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      •  Um, no (1+ / 0-)
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        They may be rare, but home invasions, ie murder by strangers, does happens.  So does burgular being surprised by resident and assaulting them.  

        Doesn't mean having a gun would stop them, the invasion I'm thinking of was an ex-Marine living in the country, he probably owned a gun or two, for all the good it did him.  But when you argue that these things NEVER happen, you've already lost.

        I don't know what's been trickling down, but it hasn't been pleasant---N. Pelosi

        by Russycle on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 10:26:19 PM PST

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        •  They do happen, but they're relatively rare (8+ / 0-)

          People who buy guns for self-defense remind me of people who drive long distances rather than fly.  Flying is far safer, but being behind the wheel gives people the illusion of control over their fate.  Owning or carrying a gun gives people the same illusion of control, but it's just that: an illusion.  Gun ownership makes them feel safer, even though simply having a gun around actually endangers you and everyone around you.

          Conservatives need to realize that their Silent Moral Majority is neither silent, nor moral, nor a majority.

          by nominalize on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 10:28:53 PM PST

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          •  This "illusion of control" is strong (1+ / 0-)
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            in American life.  Exhibit "c":
            Suburbs where homeowners can pretend that they don't need no stinkin' gubmint nor commonweal, and avoid the messy problems of people stacked on top of each other in the big evil cities.  

            ... Until they do need the gubmint, and the problems of the cities turn out to be general societal problems, after all (crime, zoning, unemployment, disinvestment, etc.),

            "..The political class cannot solve the problems it created. " - Jay Rosen

            by New Rule on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 10:20:35 AM PST

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        •  ok, so you can't read (0+ / 0-)

          And statistics isn't your strong suit.

      •  That doesn't mean that they (1+ / 0-)
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        Calamity Jean

        ..won't injure or kill you if you happen to be home. And my town had a rash of home invasions where those doing the breakins seemed to be targetting older people who lived alone. Several people were beaten up. One guy walked several blocks bleeding to the store where I work to get help; the thugs had taken his phone and we were the only place nearby open. (I called 911, got him a chair and a glass of water, did my best to make him comfortable til the ambulance and cops arrived.) If I recall right, one bad bunch got ratted out and arrested; a less lucky pair broke in on an old guy who had a shotgun. The guy who shot a kid sitting in a car should go to prison, but I have no problem with the guy whose home was being broken into shooting one of the invaders. They hadn't killed anyone, but would you want to risk being the first one they hit too hard?

        Cogito, ergo Democrata.

        by Ahianne on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 06:25:10 AM PST

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