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  •  I can't even. (26+ / 0-)

    "...its political leaders campaigned on a platform comprising 25 non-senseless points, including assertion that 'no Jew can be a member of the race.' Suffice it to say, many sensible Germans were persuaded."  

    Is she really trying to argue that disenfranchisement of Jews was a "sensible" policy choice?  

    •  Yes. I think she did EXACTLY that. (11+ / 0-)

      Her argument is that at least one German who was ostensibly not insane agreed with the Nazi's anti-semitic policy ideas. Therefore, she views Nazi ideas to be sensible.

      In the words of Inigo Montoya- She keeps using the word "sensible", but I do not think that it means what she thinks it means.

      "She was very young,he thought,...she did not understand that to push an inconvenient person over a cliff solves nothing." -1984

      by aggressiveprogressive on Fri Feb 01, 2013 at 08:48:10 AM PST

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      •  Yep (6+ / 0-)

        The Holocaust was an act of irrational hate that deprived the German state of vital resources for the war.  An immense amount of time, money, manpower, and material resources were devoted to the destruction of the Jews and others.  This at a time when those resources, applied to the war effort, would have had a dramatic effect on the war.  The SS didn't even want to let go of their victims, marching the death camp survivors just ahead of the advancing Allies in a desperate attempt to keep control of them.  It was as if murdering a little Jewish girl would bring about the defeat of the Allies.  If that's not magical thinking, I don't know what is.  But then so much of what the Nazi state did made so little sense.  I'm serious.  There was only the thinnest sheen of rationality in existence for them.  The deeper you dig into World War 2, the crazier the Nazis look.  Batshit insane psycho killers.

        But like psychopathic criminals, this irrationality was carried out in a very efficient and rational manner.  Chillingly efficient.  But at the core, pure insanity.  

        So, is Eliana Johnson in need of remedial education, or is she a neonazi?  Inquiring minds want to know.

        Tell me what to write. 'To know what is right and to do it are two different things.' - Chushingura, a tale of The Forty-Seven Ronin

        by rbird on Fri Feb 01, 2013 at 10:08:45 AM PST

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        •  This. (4+ / 0-)

          I respect reality-based analysis.

          Thank you.

          I offer a third option: does she need remedial education? is she a neo-nazi? Or is she dog-whistling to the neo-nazi/extreme racist portion of the rightwing base for political reasons that may not be instantly clear (these folks tend to be virulently pro-gun and anti-immigration: both issues that are matters of active legislation right now).

          © grover

          So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

          by grover on Fri Feb 01, 2013 at 10:49:14 AM PST

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          •  Thanks (2+ / 0-)
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            And you're right.  The third option seems quite likely.

            Tell me what to write. 'To know what is right and to do it are two different things.' - Chushingura, a tale of The Forty-Seven Ronin

            by rbird on Fri Feb 01, 2013 at 11:22:24 AM PST

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