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  •  Sneaky, I'm highlighting her AntiSemitic statement (0+ / 0-)

    that
    "No Jew can be a member of the race"

    And yes, I did read the article but I thought the most disgusting part was when she accidentally revealed her Anti-Semitic views.

    •  That was not her comment. (2+ / 0-)
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      She was quoting.

      •  Yes, it WAS her comment. (0+ / 0-)

        From her article

        Nazi party ... campaigned on a platform comprising 25 non-senseless points, including ... no Jew can be a member of the race.”

        the opposite of "non-senseless" is "sensible"

        Johnson said it was "non-senseless" (meaning sensible) that the Nazi platform included 'no Jew can be a member of the race.'

        And that is what makes Johnson's article Anti-Semitic.

        •  "Senseless" has more than one meaning (3+ / 0-)
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          and thus more than one opposite.

          She is not saying it was sensible (at least not "sensible" in its most common usage, meaning "good sense").  She is saying it was non-random, and bringing up the specific points of the Nazi platform to show that it was systematic and based on ideology rather than random.

          She is quite correct on this point, albeit extremely stupid in thinking that this point constitutes reasonable criticism of the President's statement, as "random" was not the meaning of "senseless" that he was using.

          •  No definition of "senseless" means "random" (0+ / 0-)

            you seem to be making that up as you go along here.

            From the Dictionary:

            sense·less  (snsls)
            adj.
            1. Lacking sense or meaning; meaningless.
            2. Deficient in sense; foolish or stupid.
            3. Insensate; unconscious.
            Also, I have not found one single Thesaurus to back up your claim that 'senseless' means 'random'

            No where in Johnson's article does she say "senseless" means "random"

            I tend to use the dictionary meaning of words when I read them.  She is an Editor and it is expected she will use words as defined in a Dictionary.

            She wrote

            Nazi party ... campaigned on a platform comprising 25 non-senseless points, including ... no Jew can be a member of the race.”
            And, by definition, the opposite of "non-senseless" is "sensible"

            Johnson was saying the Nazi platform was SENSIBLE in that "no Jew can be a member of a race."

            •  I googled "thesaurus senseless". (3+ / 0-)
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              And found thison the first result:

              Part of Speech:  adjective  
              Definition:  silly, meaningless  
              Synonyms:  absurd, asinine, batty, crazy, daft, double talk, doublespeak, fatuous, flaky, foolish, idiotic, illogical, imbecilic, inane, incongruous, inconsistent, insignificant, irrational, ludicrous, mad, mindless, moronic, nonsensical, nutty, pointless, purportless, purposeless, ridiculous, simple, stupid, trivial, unimportant, unintelligent, unmeaning, unreasonable, unsound, unwise, wacky*, without rhyme or reason
              I draw your attention to the bolded definitions, particularly "pointless," "purposeless," and "without rhyme or reason."

              It is obvious from Johnson's choice of counterargument that she is interpreting "senseless" as "pointless" or "purposeless" (which is what I meant by"random" but is a better way of putting it; thank you, thesaurus).

              •  Your list supports what I wrote: (0+ / 0-)

                You wrote:

                She is saying it was non-random, and bringing up the specific points of the Nazi platform to show that it was systematic and based on ideology rather than random.
                To which I replied:
                I have not found one single Thesaurus to back up your claim that 'senseless' means 'random'
                No where in Johnson's article does she say "senseless" means "random"
                Your list supports what I wrote, the randomness of a violent act has nothing at all to do with "senseless" as it is the violent act that would be "senseless."

                Face it Johnson wrote a Pro-Nazi article just to condemn a black man, President Obama.

                When she wrote:

                Nazi party ... campaigned on a platform comprising 25 non-senseless points, including ... no Jew can be a member of the race.
                Since "non-senseless" means "sensible"

                Johnson was saying she thinks it was sensible for the Nazi platform to include "NO Jew can be a member of a race."

                •  Oh for god's sake. (0+ / 0-)

                  Are you going to insist that "pointless" and "purposeless" and "without rhyme or reason" don't mean "random"?  Despite the fact that "random" is one of the synonyms of "purposeless" in the link below?

                  •  Now you pretend you didn't use the word "random" (0+ / 0-)

                    Oh for god's sake is right.

                    You've been on here making up definitions of words.

                    Getting caught making up definitions of words

                    Now you want to pretend that I did not call you out on your false notion that the word "random" has nothing to do with the word "senseless."

                    Face it, Johnson wrote a Pro-Nazi article and within her article she exposed herself as being Anti-Semitic

                    In Johnson's article she admitted, in her own words, that she supported and thought Nazi Platform was SENSIBLE in that their platform was "No Jews can be a member of a race."

                    I cannot believe all the trouble you are going to: making up words, pretending she was saying Nazism was not random.

                    Johnson did not say anything about the Nazi's randomness or non-randomness - yet you want to pretend she did.

                    Oh for God's sake is right!

          •  She's Using An Obviously Absurd Meaning (2+ / 0-)
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            Her argument is that an act is not "senseless" if it is undertaken in the cause of some specific belief.

            By this standard, the Son of Sam murders were not "senseless" -- "my 2000-year-old dog told me to kill those people" is a specific belief.

            On the Internet, nobody knows if you're a dog... but everybody knows if you're a jackass.

            by stevemb on Fri Feb 01, 2013 at 12:54:11 PM PST

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        •  Wrong. (1+ / 0-)
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          WB Reeves

          That is a bizarre misreading of the Johnson article.

          Naziism provided simple solutions for every problem. Lying solutions. Falsely constructed solutions. Evil solutions.

          Every one of them clearly, simply stated.

          The very opposites to nonsense.

          "Have you left no sense of decency, sir, at long last?" Army Attorney to Sen. McCarthy, 1954. "We have done nothing to be ashamed of. We have nothing to apologize for." NRA 12/14/2012.

          by bontemps2012 on Fri Feb 01, 2013 at 05:28:58 PM PST

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