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  •  Johnson is not "interpreting" anything and she is (0+ / 0-)

    not even claiming to be re-defining 'senseless"

    She is, in fact, saying that when the left calls the Holocaust, "senseless violence" then the left is wrong.

    She wrote:

    The idea that all violence is “senseless” violence is one that has taken deep root on the left; it’s also, unfortunately, one that poses a major impediment to understanding the world.

    Yea, because calling the Holocaust senseless violence impedes us and makes us think genocide is evil .... whereas Eliana Johnson thinks "sensible Germans" understood genocide of jews was a-ok

    She wrote:

    By the early 1930s, the Nazi party had hundreds of thousands of devoted members and repeatedly attracted a third of the votes in German elections; its political leaders campaigned on a platform comprising 25 non-senseless points, including the “unification of all Germans,” a demand for “land and territory for the sustenance of our people,” and an assertion that “no Jew can be a member of the race.” Suffice it to say, many SENSIBLE Germans were persuaded.
    By saying "Sensible" Germans agreed that "no Jew can be a member of the race.” -- Johnson is saying that non-sensible people, like the left, would not agree that "no Jew can be a member of the race.”

    Therefore, Johnson is saying that she would have been one of those sensible Germans who were Anti-Semitic

    As Wheever wrote below

    To describe a people that agreed with, and took part in, overt violent racial extermination and genocide as "sensible" cannot be parsed away.

    The proper and usual description of such people by those who DO NOT agree with such people usually includes such terms as "vile" "murderous" "criminal" "insane" "thugs" "war criminals" "Racists" "evil" "despicable" and "unforgivable," to name but a few.

    You will note that "sensible" is not included in that list.

    I won't say you are being silly, but I do say you are wrong.

    Eliana Johnson has, indeed, proven with her own words that she is Anti-Semitic and agreed with the Nazi's who said, 'No Jew can be a member of the race."

    •  You are no more entitled (0+ / 0-)

      to impose your interpretation of the meaning of Johnson's words than Johnson is to impose her own on the President's.

      Whether you like it or not, Nazism is a comprehensible ideology. That it appealed to a broad segment of Germans who would have been otherwise described as "average" or "normal" is an ugly fact of history. That it is a despicable and murderous ideology alters this fact not at all.

      Recognizing this fact as Johnson does, albeit for the purpose of scoring completely spurious debating points, says absolutely nothing about her attitude towards  Nazism.

      You are engaged in the same intellectual/rhetorical shell game as Johnson. You're just approaching it from the opposing political pole.

      Nothing human is alien to me.

      by WB Reeves on Fri Feb 01, 2013 at 01:39:37 PM PST

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