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    nominalize, kharma, gof

    Yes, I agree that defensive gun uses occur.

    And yes, I agree that defensive gun uses are much harder to document than are gunshot injuries and deaths.

    I don't know for a fact, but I suspect the vast majority of documented defensive gun uses are done by law enforcement officers.  If the cops pull their guns to apprehend a fleeing bank robber, I think we can all agree that a documented defensive gun use has occurred.

    But what about that shooting a couple of weeks ago at Lone Star State College librabry?  Two guys get in a tiff, both pull guns and start blazing away.  Both claim they used their guns in self-defense.  So is this two instances of a defensive gun use?  No, this should more properly be documented as two criminal uses of a gun.

    Or what about the woman walking a city street late at night?  She fears the guy walking behind her is going to do her some harm, so she turns around and shows the guy her gun.  The guy runs away.  Is this a defensive use of a gun?  Maybe, and maybe not, because we can never know for certain what that guy was planning or going to do.

    So, I for one do not believe that defensive gun uses occur with the great frequency claimed by gun enthusiasts.  If the gun enthusiasts want to convince me I am wrong, they need to show the many documented defensive gun uses.  And I have never seen that proof.

    "The fool doth think he is wise: the wise man knows himself to be a fool" - W. Shakespeare

    by Hugh Jim Bissell on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 09:47:44 AM PST

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    •  Free speech enthusiasts... (0+ / 0-)

      ...have very few proven cases where free speech saved lives in the United States in recent years. Similar for the other aspects of most provisions of the BoR.

      Sorry, the burden of proof is on the party who wants to deny a right, not on the one who wants to retain the ability to exercise it.

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