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  •  Please read the study (6+ / 0-)

    Your impression that cats do not kill many birds and their overall wildlife impact is unimportant is not a scientific study.

    Please keep your cats indoors.

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    by Urban Owl on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 12:39:28 PM PST

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    •  Yep (0+ / 0-)

      A show on Animal Planet a while back rated domestic cats as the all-time greatest killers.  All felines are terrific murder machines, but house cats take the crown as most lethal killers.  Before my late parents started keeping Speed inside, he'd bring back rabbits, all sorts of birds, anything.  I inherited him after my parents died.  He is now a contented inside cat.  The old man's sleeping right next to my chair as I type this.

      If Speed the dreaded killer can be turned into an inside-only cat, it's possible for any cat to undergo the transformation.

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      by rbird on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 01:47:21 PM PST

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    •  I actually read the study before it was posted (3+ / 0-)
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      here, but you sound a bit more alarmed than even the author of the study, who did not say that all cats need to be kept inside. Simpler steps, like adding a bell, are suggested instead. Yes, cats do kill billions of birds and mice, but it is doubtful any of these animals are headed for extinction. The population of rodents is quite large and can grow very rapidly if left unchecked. Cats have been domesticated for thousands of years, often in densely populated areas and can perform a useful function in controlling this, even if it offends some people's sensibilities. Yet, birds and mice are still not extinct. Furthermore, the birds they hunt are not exactly eagles or condors. So, I think there should be better recognition of the fact if cats didn't scare away and sometime eat certain birds, their populations could become unsustainably high. I have also learned, after reading many scientific studies, that it's usually not a good idea to put too much stock every latest study. Not only is it wise to wait for more peer review, but the results are often badly misinterpreted by what passes for science journalism these days.

      Just doing my part to piss off right wing nuts, one smart ass comment at a time.

      by tekno2600 on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 02:03:18 PM PST

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      •  Let's also remember that things don't always go so (5+ / 0-)
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        well for little tigers:

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        Just doing my part to piss off right wing nuts, one smart ass comment at a time.

        by tekno2600 on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 02:08:54 PM PST

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      •  Ask the aussies about the cute little bunnies n/t (2+ / 0-)
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        Fry, don't be a hero! It's not covered by our health plan!

        by elfling on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 09:31:39 PM PST

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      •  Know what else is a bad idea? (0+ / 0-)

        Introducing invasive species into ecosystems that aren't equipped to adapt to them. Just ask the Australians. Hares, anyone (but they're so much fun to hunt! Surely that can't be bad)? Oooh... or maybe Cane Toads (but they'll control our cane beetle population... what could go wrong?)! SO MANY fun ways to mux up a fragile biosphere...

        Cats have indeed been domesticated for thousands of years in Africa, Europe, and Asia. In North America... not so much. Admittedly I don't have any good figures on when they may have been introduced to N.A., but it can't have been more than... 500 years maybe? Long time for us; not so much for an ecosystem that's been doing its thang for millions without felis silvestris roaming around.

        Yes, of course "birds and mice" aren't extinct. But consider the populations of birds who ARE impacted  in N. America: Cardinals, Bluejays, Piping Plovers, and others. Just because they're not extinct doesn't mean felines don't have a hugely negative impact on them. As with most large-scale threats to wildlife, human interference (here by introducing a new predatory species) in ecosystems is the culprit.

        See more information from the American Bird Conservancy:

        In short, it's not hard, people. Keep your kitties indoors. The cost to you is nominal (and by nominal I mean non-existant), and the benefits to your cat and nature are high.

        "entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem" -- William of Ockham

        by shazamtwix on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 11:35:23 PM PST

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