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    Just a theory, but it's possible Mr. Knox was thinking of the Battle of Adrianople, which occurred in 378 CE, west of Constantinople on the European side of the Bosporus.  It was there that the Emperor Valens foolishly engaged a Visigothic army that was arrayed around the top of a small hill, only to be overwhelmed when a force of Ostrogth cavalry swept around both sides of the hill and destroyed the imperial army  in detail; contemporary accounts place Roman dead at +/- 40,000 (including the emperor himself).

    Though the area in which the battle was fought is in what's now Turkey, the "Turks" didn't capture it until the 15th century.  Though Turkic-speaking tribes had been exerting strong influence in Asia Minor since before the time of the Crusades, none had been able to fight their way past Constantinople and into the Balkans until the Ottomans appeared on the scene.  To conflate an Eastern Roman emperor of the 4th century with an Ottoman Turkish sultan represents historical ignorance of the first order - would've assured Mr. Knox of a spot on the "Get a Brain, Morans!" top-10 list, if all the other types of ignorance displayed by the hate-mailer hadn't already done so.

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