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  •  He didn't convert anything to full auto (13+ / 0-)

    He is using a bump fire stock.

    Bump fire

    It is a gimick stock that allows you to pull the trigger faster at the cost of accuracy.

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    by boriscleto on Sat Feb 02, 2013 at 09:53:27 AM PST

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    •  thank you; my venerable CPU has all sorts (4+ / 0-)
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      of problems with video and also lacks speakers.  I did not catch that he was "bumping".  I still wonder if a pump would not fire faster as it is also possible to rapidfire a pump without pulling the trigger for each shot
      Again thanks for the clarification

    •  True, unfortunately. (6+ / 0-)

      I guess either ATF has fallen down on the job, or we have a good example of how lawyers roll when standing in for people with knowledge of physics and engineering.

      I would only want one of those slide stocks if I had a sponsor willing to foot my ammunition bill for me.

      One of the funniest videos I saw on the subject was a guy who puts shooting product reviews up on youtube. He was singing the praises of a slide stock, but when he used up his first 20 or 30 round mag of ammo in around 2 or 3 seconds, he first tried clearing a jam, then realized he was out of ammo. I forget the exact quote, but it was something like "Boy, that sure runs through ammo fast."

      Yes, duh.

      I kind of think that's one reason we don't see slide stocks or full auto weapons used in mass shootings. The perps would, or maybe have, used up their ammo budgets practicing.

      Moderation in most things.

      by billmosby on Sat Feb 02, 2013 at 10:12:34 AM PST

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      •  I remember a local shooting range in the 70's (5+ / 0-)

        whose owner stocked several full auto weapons and happily sold ammo by the rail car full.  He did not even charge for the use of the weapons, only the ammo, if I remember correctly.

        As he said, all you do is pull the trigger and reach for another clip.  His main problem was keeping enough clips on hand

        •  Kind of like ink-jet printers, lol. n/t (7+ / 0-)

          Moderation in most things.

          by billmosby on Sat Feb 02, 2013 at 12:04:02 PM PST

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          •  TEC 9s and 10s could be considered the (6+ / 0-)

            ink jets of the shooting world.  Great comparison

            •  I know somebody who took a ted 9 (4+ / 0-)

              in trade for filling somebody's gas tank. This acquaintance, Frank, owned a gas station that did a ton of business, so he took a chance on 20 gallons or so, back when gas was 1 or 2 dollars a gallon.

              He also owned an RV campground across the road, where LDS family reunions were held; at his own family reunion, he brought that ted-9 out to amuse the family. It jammed every 3 rounds or so. He said it wasn't worth the gas he paid for it, it was a "waste of bullets". Looked cool to the kids, though.

              Later on that evening one of the illegal skyrockets they used (and also sold at the stand at their gas station) went up about 40 feet, turned 90 degrees, and ended up setting the median of the highway on fire. This was on highway 20 (if I remember my numbers correctly) in Thornton, ID, a few miles south of Rexburg. Meanwhile, his son was on the way back from a shopping trip to Salt Lake City and had gotten to within about 10 miles of the conflagration and could see the fire and smoke plume and his first thought was, "what's dad done now!".

              Frank had a reputation as one who took chances in the name of frugality, and also for accidentally setting stuff on fire, frequently in quest of some cheap way of doing things. He burned his vinyl fence one other time trying to get rid of weeds the easy way.

              Anyway, if you ever wondered what they do for entertainment out in Idaho Mormon Pioneer country for fun, that's a small sample. Kind of a pious variant of your standard redneck, more or less.

              Moderation in most things.

              by billmosby on Sat Feb 02, 2013 at 01:05:04 PM PST

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    •  Not according to the expert in the video (3+ / 0-)

      He proved accuracy with all rounds in the silhouette area. I understand and have heard people call them silly, but not this guy. That's why the juxtaposition of him explaining the difference between an assault rifle and a semi-auto video with the semi-auto being compared to a full auto after a bump slide is installed, suggests he has a very different opinion of the effectiveness of the bump slide.

      What I found amazing was he put all the rounds on target firing at full auto when people who derided the bump slide as just a way of wasting ammo.

      But then again, one would have to actually watch the video to see it.

      Jeez, I'm really disappointed. They said Video is better than images which is like a 1000 words and these days if you write too many words, people will just leave.

    •  Rec'd for point out what he used (2+ / 0-)
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      These are an ATF approved device.  They are considered fun to shoot at the range but of little practical value.

      For the more open minded individuals, here is a link to a discussion thread on these at (fairly non political) gun forum.

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