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  •  Here is a link to (7+ / 0-)

    an interactive version of the chart. It might clear things up.

    Thank your stars you're not that way/Turn your back and walk away/Don't even pause and ask them why/Turn around and say 'goodbye'/Just wish them well.....

    by Purple Priestess on Sat Feb 02, 2013 at 09:17:57 PM PST

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    •  It doesn't clear it up. It still says Vermont (7+ / 0-)

      has a near total ban on abortions. That's just not true, even according to the Guttmacher Institute which put the map together. I think they may have put the wrong color in there.

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      by marleycat on Sat Feb 02, 2013 at 09:21:13 PM PST

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      •  I see that almost all states have that-MA too (7+ / 0-)

        I suspect it's an old law they just didn't take off the books because Roe vs  Wade superceded it(?)

        That would mean that if Roe goes down as I fear it might, all those laws in most states become active and would have to be overturned.

        It might be best for all of us who care about this issue to find out and try to overturn these state laws now.

        I really think Roe will go down. This generation of young women grew up after Roe so has not agitated nearly enough. They dont' know what it's like without it.

        •  Certainly the case in IL. (9+ / 0-)

          Illinois Compiled Statutes: CRIMINAL OFFENSES (720 ILCS 510/) Illinois Abortion Law of 1975.

          (720 ILCS 510/1) (from Ch. 38, par. 81-21)
              Sec. 1. It is the intention of the General Assembly of the State of Illinois to reasonably regulate abortion in conformance with the decisions of the United States Supreme Court of January 22, 1973. Without in any way restricting the right of privacy of a woman or the right of a woman to an abortion under those decisions, the General Assembly of the State of Illinois do solemnly declare and find in reaffirmation of the longstanding policy of this State, that the unborn child is a human being from the time of conception and is, therefore, a legal person for purposes of the unborn child's right to life and is entitled to the right to life from conception under the laws and Constitution of this State. Further, the General Assembly finds and declares that longstanding policy of this State to protect the right to life of the unborn child from conception by prohibiting abortion unless necessary to preserve the life of the mother is impermissible only because of the decisions of the United States Supreme Court and that, therefore, if those decisions of the United States Supreme Court are ever reversed or modified or the United States Constitution is amended to allow protection of the unborn then the former policy of this State to prohibit abortions unless necessary for the preservation of the mother's life shall be reinstated.
              It is the further intention of the General Assembly to assure and protect the woman's health and the integrity of the woman's decision whether or not to continue to bear a child, to protect the valid and compelling state interest in the infant and unborn child, to assure the integrity of marital and familial relations and the rights and interests of persons who participate in such relations, and to gather data for establishing criteria for medical decisions. The General Assembly finds as fact, upon hearings and public disclosures, that these rights and interests are not secure in the economic and social context in which abortion is presently performed.
          (Source: P.A. 81-1078.)
          I have seen no effort by state Democrats to change this in my lifetime.

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          by Odysseus on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 06:23:53 AM PST

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          •  Yes, I was going to make a similar comment (3+ / 0-)

            about the "trigger laws" - abortion bans that go into effect instantly if Roe is overturned.  It disturbs me very much that Illinois, a blue state - where we hear no end of bitching about our "Democrat legislature" still has such a law on the books.  

            I believe this came about during the heyday of Phyllis Schlafley, the crusade against the Equal Rights Amendment, and so forth.  I think a bunch of wingnuts deluged the capitol in diapers, or something like that.

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            by snazzzybird on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 09:37:10 AM PST

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        •  I believe that is the case (2+ / 0-)
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          I did a bit of clicking around at Guttmacher re VT and I think there is an old law there that is not enforced with Roe in place.

          Those old laws need to be gotten off the books in case that Roe does ever go down.

          •  Glad we got that figured out (2+ / 0-)
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            It seemed odd to me that with all that research that there would be any mistakes there. I guess we all didn't realize the traps that lie in wait if the worst were to happen. Thank you for checking.

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            by Purple Priestess on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 03:14:49 PM PST

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        •  Roe makes it unenforceable. n/t (1+ / 0-)
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          2012-2016 President Obama, Vice President Biden, Senator Warren. For a LIFETIME, federal judges. Get the filibuster changed. Steamroll.

          by CuriousBoston on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 04:44:57 PM PST

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          •  yes but we are afraid Roe is going down (0+ / 0-)

            it has been violated over and over again in many states--especially since 2010 election of Republicans to statewide offices at an unprecedented level-- as Rachel Maddow has covered. Many people are unaware of this. Roe says that states can't put unreasonable barriers in there for women...yet these states with their ultrasounds (some invasive) and closing down clinics by rewriting state rules precisely to target and close those clinics, etc etc are doing just that.

            Some of the laws are written in order to provoke provoke Pro Choice forces to challenge these state laws and sue. They want a case to wind it's way up to the Supreme Court in hopes that they will overturn Roe v Wade. But Pro Choice groups so far haven't wanted a case to go before THIS conservative Supreme Court.

            So instead at the state level the right for a woman to get abortions if she feels she needs one is being eroded. There are states now with only one abortion clinic so women have to drive five hours to get there. Some states require women to come back again or even twice on subsequent days for "education" so they have time to "think about it". Believe me women have thought it through at home before deciding! These laws are written so that women are inconvenienced...they are purposefull barriers to access. Lower income women--who may feel they cant' support a child--and younger women especialy may not have a car or a ride to drive so far. They may not be able to take off work for the several days the laws are requiring (lower income people often have the kind of jobs you can't leave). They might not be able to afford overnight accomadations.

            So the content of Roe v Wade is defacto ERODED and OVERTURNED in states right now and many people don't know.

          •  see this diary from today, Mon (0+ / 0-)

            this is just one state. They already have a 24hr waiting period (woman has to come back next stay overnight near clinic-reminder that there arent' many clinics women travel for hundreds of miles). Can you think of any other LEGAL medical procedure that we allow to be hemmed in by this?  . Now this new law.

            Forty Years After Roe, "Choice" No Longer Means Much in Michigan

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