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  •  South Africa is precedent for this (5+ / 0-)

    Under Apartheid only whites could vote.  But the Boer-National Party racists were concerned they would lose their majority of a minority to the more moderate descendants of British settlers, Jews and more moderate Afrrikanners, so they gerrrymandered the hell out of the Parliamentary districts to ensure they would stay in power.

    "We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals, now we know that it is bad economics." Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Jan. 20, 1937

    by Navy Vet Terp on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 06:02:54 AM PST

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    •  Well, we all know how that ended (6+ / 0-)

      for them. Overt oppression has a way of blowing back at you.

      "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

      by kovie on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 06:07:16 AM PST

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      •  You know, kovie, (3+ / 0-)
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        Minnesota Deb, a2nite, kovie

        you not only have a great point there, but also, look at what the LGBT community has achieved by refusing to accept RW memes on their rights.  I know Progressives are a diverse group, but so are LGBT's!  It seems we could somehow look at what worked for LGBT, and try to hold together long enough to make it work for us!  How can universal health care, raising cap on income for FICA withholding, and no restrictions on abortion/birth control [to name a few] be harder to achieve than accecptance of LGBT rights?

        "The light which puts out our sight is darkness to us." Thoreau

        by NancyWH on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 06:30:13 AM PST

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        •  I don't think that there are ANY progressive goals (2+ / 0-)
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          Laconic Lib, NancyWH

          that can't be achieved in time, since they ALL represent the will of the majority (whether the majority thinks of it as such or not at the time). It's just a matter of adopting proven strategies and pursuing them doggedly and intelligently until they succeed. Gay and other minority rights, universal health care, world class public education for all (beyond high school), 100% environmentally sustainable energy, fairer economic conditions, etc. These are are things that the public wants, and that we can get, if we pursue them properly.

          "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

          by kovie on Sun Feb 03, 2013 at 09:03:30 AM PST

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